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Le 29/10/2011 01:58, H. Karsten nous fit lire :
> Daily week news...
>
> 1000x1000x1000 scans in less then 6 minutes
>
@ which cpu speed ?
I got the same resolution in about 3 minutes for the first two (205 s),
9 minutes and 7 1/2., all at 3.3GHz.
(order: true object, bourke, heller, cristal, cubicle)
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clipka <ano### [at] anonymous org> wrote:
> I can't help but put a small damper on the enthusiasm about this
> approach: The resulting mesh objects will never render the same as the
> original, no matter how high you crank up the detail. You'd need a way
> to preserve surface normal information for that. (This is true even for
> simple diffuse illumination.)
It's not always about rendering. If so, you would be right - But only a picture
as a result does not need to have a .raw-file on the hard-drive at the end of
the day.
But sometimes a mesh is needed for example doing an animation somewhere else,
heaving its rough shape. Than take back only the matrix to PovRay and do the
rendering, using the _original_ object instead of the mesh-file.
Best rgds,
Holger
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On 31/10/2011 6:43 PM, H. Karsten wrote:
> But sometimes a mesh is needed for example doing an animation somewhere else,
> heaving its rough shape. Than take back only the matrix to PovRay and do the
> rendering, using the_original_ object instead of the mesh-file.
This is very true. Often in Poser I would like to import an OBJ file so
that I can pose my characters around it before exporting them into PoseRay.
It will be a very useful utility.
--
Regards
Stephen
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Stephen <mcavoys_at@aoldotcom> wrote:
> On 31/10/2011 6:43 PM, H. Karsten wrote:
> > But sometimes a mesh is needed for example doing an animation somewhere else,
> > heaving its rough shape. Than take back only the matrix to PovRay and do the
> > rendering, using the_original_ object instead of the mesh-file.
>
> This is very true. Often in Poser I would like to import an OBJ file so
> that I can pose my characters around it before exporting them into PoseRay.
> It will be a very useful utility.
>
> --
> Regards
> Stephen
As I Posted before, a view friends of mine, and me, we working on this. It's
already running very well, using 3DS-Max. I tried to convert this onto GMAX -
but the script-language does not support any exports. Not even matrix-data.
But we decided to do this for Blender and other Aps as well. If Blender is not
you taste, Houdini is another one, we like to bring this on.
Best rgds,
Holger
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Le_Forgeron <jgr### [at] freefr> wrote:
> Le 29/10/2011 01:58, H. Karsten nous fit lire :
> > Daily week news...
> >
> > 1000x1000x1000 scans in less then 6 minutes
> >
> @ which cpu speed ?
>
> I got the same resolution in about 3 minutes for the first two (205 s),
> 9 minutes and 7 1/2., all at 3.3GHz.
>
> (order: true object, bourke, heller, cristal, cubicle)
Looks very cool!
Well I have only a slow machine here. It's 1.6 Ghz and HT was on, but all
scripts are using only one cpu. So it's even slower.
And don't forget: Rebol is a script language only! When I finished this, I thing
I'll convert this to Rubin. Here I can compile this. But it's still a good thing
heaving this as rebol, so it can run almost everywhere.
Best rgds,
Holger :)
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On 31/10/2011 8:06 PM, H. Karsten wrote:
> As I Posted before, a view friends of mine, and me, we working on this. It's
> already running very well, using 3DS-Max. I tried to convert this onto GMAX -
> but the script-language does not support any exports. Not even matrix-data.
>
Once you have the object in 3DS-Max, can you not export it manually?
> But we decided to do this for Blender and other Aps as well. If Blender is not
> you taste, Houdini is another one, we like to bring this on.
>
I thought that it was a SDL script. Blender, is as you say, not to my
taste and I've not tried Houdini. I use Bishop3D to model but I have my
suspicions that its development is over. So maybe it is time to move on
to another modeller.
--
Regards
Stephen
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Stephen <mcavoys_at@aoldotcom> wrote:
> Once you have the object in 3DS-Max, can you not export it manually?
I do not export the geometry out of max. In the past I did the modelling, using
Rhino. from this I've exported it to Obj in several levels of detail. Importing
the lowest only into Max for animation. Once the animation is done, I'm using
the "vue-file renderer". It generates a file, containing the Matrix-data of all
objects. In PovRay, only the high-level-objects are used for the rendering and
the matrix-data for sure.
The idea behind this is, that the High-level objects are THAT extreme, you could
NEVER do an animation with this in what app ever! The parsing sometimes took
move then 30 minutes in PovRay. So sometimes I'm using the old MegPov 0.7 with
the "persistence of objects" function. It loads in the geometry ONLY for the
first frame.
In _this_ case, it would be possible to have native-script-based objects, from
PovRay as mesh in Max. Animate them, using the .vue-file-renderer again, and do
the rendering in PovRay, using the original-objects.
> I thought that it was a SDL script. Blender, is as you say, not to my
> taste and I've not tried Houdini. I use Bishop3D to model but I have my
> suspicions that its development is over. So maybe it is time to move on
> to another modeller.
I do 3D since the beginning of the 90s. If someone today ask me what app to use,
I recommend Blender or Houdini.
Blender is not everyone's taste, ok but its still very good and free.
Houdini can be used for free, heaving a lower res for the rendering, but still
all functions available. As well exporting everything. So you can do the
modelling within Houdini and do the rendering in PovRay.
Or you can by an _normal_ version for _non-professional_ use. It has all
function on. That costs about 100 Dollars only!
Only the version for Professional use costs a lot.
Houdini is the absolute HAMMER in 3D it's the absolute super-app! It's using a
node-based interface. Very good for organising extreme projects. Don't be
shocked by this! It's _very_ easy to use. Don't try just to do something on you
own after installation. When heaving no idea of what going on here you are lost!
Download a view tut video-files and you be very fine.
Have fun with this!!
Best rgds,
Holger
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Stephen <mcavoys_at@aoldotcom> wrote:
> I thought that it was a SDL script.
In any case there are some problems to solve. SDL in PovRay can parse only
comma-separated files. So your matrix need to come this way. That means often
times it needs to be converted, using some other scripting languages.
Same with the geometry. If you have an .obj file you need to convert it to
PovRay on the one, and to the other app on the other side.
For the work I've already done with the Max-PovRay thing I still using other
apps for the conversion of the geometry. That it the main thing, not heaving
released this. If other people using other converter it's likely not to run...
I already started to write a converter that does a batch conversion from obj to
PovRay. But it's not finished jet.
For this thing here the .raw-file needs to be converted to the specific app.
We'll solve this later. Anyway it would be a good step to do it in a way, being
independent from the app and the converter. If this is not possible, I'll do it
insight the script. But that's for later.
Best rgds,
Holger
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ok, /almost/ done. But one thing is for sure: When I've finished this, I'll stop
using rebol!!
Instead of Ruby, as I thought before, I think I'll switch to Haskell.
The way of reflecting, rereflecting or not reflecting variables in rebol is the
pure horror!
Now it's time for a purely functional language.
Best rgds,
Holger
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OK, here a testversion not verry well tested jet and still slow.
- Download REBOL/Core 2.7 for Server Applications at
http://www.rebol.com/download.html
- rename it rebol.exe
- put it somewhere, the path-variable is pointing on, like c:\windows or
c:\windows\system32
- let run "example.pov" -> "geometry.qvx" should be generated (check for
permissions to let write files from PovRay)
- put "qvx2raw.r" and "qvx2raw.bat" into the same folder you run the example in
before.
- run "qvx2raw.bat" -> "geometry.raw" should be generated
It has being tested with:
PovRay 3.7
PovRay 3.6
PovRay 3.5
PovMan 1.1
MLPov 0.83
MegaPov 1.2.1
MCPov 0.0.5
DFjsPov (POV35dfjs.ZIP)
SlimePov
Note: the app is compressed. change "do decompress app" to "write/lines
%"source.r" decompress app" to save the source.
Best rgds,
holger
example.pov:
//#############################################################################
// Examplefile 4
// Pov2Raw
// Use:
// 1. #include "Pov2Qvx.inc" (only once)
// Pov2Mesh(object to trace,resolution,"file to save.qvx",true or false (want to
see the hits in the rendering))
camera {
location <0,1,-1.5>*7
look_at <0,0,0>
rotate <0,-53,0>
angle 40
}
light_source {
<-2,4,-2>*10
color rgb 1
rotate <0,-53,0>
}
#declare In=
julia_fractal {
<.745,0,.9113,.005>
max_iteration 6
precision 10000
//hypercomplex
texture { pigment { color rgb <.9,.5,.6> }
finish { phong .9 phong_size 20 }
}
//rotate <135,-30,0>
}
#include "Pov2Qvx.inc"
Pov2Mesh(In,15,concat("geometry.qvx"),true)
//object{In pigment{color rgbt <1,1,1,0.005>}}
Pov2Qvx.inc:
//#############################################################################
/*
This has being tested with:
PovRay 3.7
PovRay 3.6
PovRay 3.5
PovMan 1.1
MLPov 0.83
MegaPov 1.2.1
MCPov 0.0.5
DFjsPov (POV35dfjs.ZIP)
SlimePov
*/
#macro Rstr(V,L,P)
concat("[", vstr(3, V, " ", L,P), "]")
#end
// This is just the main loop
#macro Pov2Mesh(Obj,Res,FileNameToSave,Show)
#if (Res<4)#local Res=4;#end
#ifdef (Pov2mesh_slice)#undef Pov2mesh_slice#end#local
Pov2mesh_slice=array[Res+2][Res+2];
#ifdef (Pov2mesh_row) #undef Pov2mesh_row #end#local Pov2mesh_row
=array[Res+2];
#ifdef (Pov2mesh_cube) #undef Pov2mesh_cube #end#local Pov2mesh_cube=0;
#local Mn=min_extent(Obj);
#local Mx=max_extent(Obj);
#local Xstp=(Mx.x-Mn.x)/(Res-1);
#local Ystp=(Mx.y-Mn.y)/(Res-1);
#local Zstp=(Mx.z-Mn.z)/(Res-1);
#local Xstp=int((Mx.x-Mn.x)/(Xstp)) / int(int((Mx.x-Mn.x)/(Xstp)) / Xstp);
#local Ystp=int((Mx.y-Mn.y)/(Ystp)) / int(int((Mx.y-Mn.y)/(Ystp)) / Ystp);
#local Zstp=int((Mx.z-Mn.z)/(Zstp)) / int(int((Mx.z-Mn.z)/(Zstp)) / Zstp);
#local Pold=0;
#fopen rawFile FileNameToSave write
#write (rawFile,Rstr(Mn,0,-1),"\n")
#write (rawFile,Rstr(Mx,0,-1),"\n")
#write (rawFile,Rstr(<Xstp,Ystp,Zstp>,0,-1),"\n")
#local Wr=false;
#local Xr=Mn.x;//-Xstp;
#local Xgrid=0;
#while (Xr<=Mx.x)//+Xstp*10)
//#debug concat("###### Xr: ",str(Xr,0,-1),"\n")
#local Yr=Mn.y;//-Ystp;
#local Ygrid=0;
#while (Yr<=Mx.y)//+Ystp*10)
#local Zgrid=0;
#local SPOld=<Xr,Yr,Mn.z-Zstp>;
#local Norm=<0,0,1>;
#while (vlength(Norm)!=0)
#local Norm=<0,0,0>;
#local SP=trace(Obj,SPOld,z,Norm);
#if (vlength(Norm)!=0)#write (rawFile,Rstr(SP,0,-1),"\n")#local Wr=true;
#if (Show)
sphere {0,.5 scale <Xstp,Ystp,Zstp> translate SP pigment{color rgb <0,1,0>}}
#end
#end
#local SPOld=SP;
#end
//#debug concat("###### Yr: ",str(Yr,0,-1),"\n")
#local Yr=Yr+Ystp;
#local Ygrid=Ygrid+1;#end
#local Percent=int(100-((Mx.x-Xr)/(Mx.x-Mn.x)*100));
#if (Percent > Pold)#debug concat("Pov2qvx is working...
",str(Percent,-2,0),"%\n")#end
#local Xr=Xr+Xstp;
#local Xgrid=Xgrid+1;
#local Pold=Percent;#end
#fclose rawFile
#end
qvx2raw.r:
;##############################################################################
REBOL [
Title: "Qvx to raw"
File: %qvx2raw.r
Author: "Holger Karsten, BCN Niue Island"
Date: oct/nov 2011
Purpose: {
Converter for the .qvx file that is prodoced by the PovRay-file
PovMesh1.inc
All .qvx files of the currend directory are taken and being
convertet into a .raw file.
The combination of PovMesh & qvx2raw are designed to convert any
geometry in PovRay into a mesh-file.
Category: [3D PovRay converter tool Polygon rendering geometry]
}
]
app: #{
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}
do decompress app
qvx2raw.bat:
rem ###########################################################################
rebol -s qvx2raw.r
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