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On 7/29/2016 7:58 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 28-7-2016 16:08, Stephen wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Good.
>> It made me think of doing an image of the kid as a scorpion.
>
> That would be interesting to do. I have pondered the complex chain
> pattern worn by him but that seems far too complicated to model
> dynamically in Poser and iirc he wore it under his clothes anyway.
> Incidentally, I saw on the web somebody who tattooed the pattern on her
> body (why not indeed?). Still, the kid is also on my (long) wish list.
>
Yes, the kid is more your kind of image than mine.
I am more interested in the Projector and trying to get a person inside
an illuminated Scorpion. That will probably something that is better in
the mind than in the flesh.
I've found a free scorpion mesh but it is not articulated. I should be
able to pose it in Blender.
> Lets see where that brings us. We always can combine elements into a
> grand Delany scene. :-)
>
Let's do that. I can't promise I'll get an effect that will be acceptable.
The optical chains remind me of the hippy beads I wore in the early
seventies. The beads were strung together in a chain with brass wire and
itched like hell. :)
All you would need is a loop showing at a cuff or a chest. But I am
getting ahead of myself. :)
>>
>> A couple of years ago I made a start on the dress Lanya wore to the big
>> party.
>> [Un-sensuous nudity warning]
>>
>
> Ah yes, I remember that one. I suppose the dress needed a couple more
> subdivisions to move correctly ;-)
>
>
It was only a proof of concept. It would need a bit more work it it were
to be useful.
It was the first time I had used Poser's Walk Designer as well. And it
shows.
I must say that book made an impression on me. I read it in the late
70's and I remember a lot.
--
Regards
Stephen
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On 29-7-2016 11:09, Stephen wrote:
> On 7/29/2016 7:58 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 28-7-2016 16:08, Stephen wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Good.
>>> It made me think of doing an image of the kid as a scorpion.
>>
>> That would be interesting to do. I have pondered the complex chain
>> pattern worn by him but that seems far too complicated to model
>> dynamically in Poser and iirc he wore it under his clothes anyway.
>> Incidentally, I saw on the web somebody who tattooed the pattern on her
>> body (why not indeed?). Still, the kid is also on my (long) wish list.
>>
>
> Yes, the kid is more your kind of image than mine.
> I am more interested in the Projector and trying to get a person inside
> an illuminated Scorpion. That will probably something that is better in
> the mind than in the flesh.
It is a thought. I need to read the book again to get the mood again; it
has been a while since last time.
> I've found a free scorpion mesh but it is not articulated. I should be
> able to pose it in Blender.
That should be possible indeed.
>
>
>> Lets see where that brings us. We always can combine elements into a
>> grand Delany scene. :-)
>>
>
> Let's do that. I can't promise I'll get an effect that will be acceptable.
> The optical chains remind me of the hippy beads I wore in the early
> seventies. The beads were strung together in a chain with brass wire and
> itched like hell. :)
It must be something like that indeed.
> All you would need is a loop showing at a cuff or a chest. But I am
> getting ahead of myself. :)
Yes. That would be enough and not too difficult. The kid himself should
be rather straightforward as Poser modelling goes.
>
>>>
>>> A couple of years ago I made a start on the dress Lanya wore to the big
>>> party.
>>> [Un-sensuous nudity warning]
>>>
>>
>> Ah yes, I remember that one. I suppose the dress needed a couple more
>> subdivisions to move correctly ;-)
>>
>>
> It was only a proof of concept. It would need a bit more work it it were
> to be useful.
> It was the first time I had used Poser's Walk Designer as well. And it
> shows.
>
> I must say that book made an impression on me. I read it in the late
> 70's and I remember a lot.
>
Oh yes indeed; disturbing and fascinating at the same time. It has not
lost its attraction either. It was a new way of writing SF at the time
although I don't think it was really part of the 'New Wave' as promoted
by Harlan Ellison at the time, although certainly close in concept.
--
Thomas
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On 7/29/2016 12:48 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 29-7-2016 11:09, Stephen wrote:
>> On 7/29/2016 7:58 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>> On 28-7-2016 16:08, Stephen wrote:
>
> It is a thought. I need to read the book again to get the mood again; it
> has been a while since last time.
>
My paperback is in storage. I have a epub version but it is not the same
as a hardcopy. Especially when the writing gets disjointed and tells
bits of its own story.
>> I've found a free scorpion mesh but it is not articulated. I should be
>> able to pose it in Blender.
>
> That should be possible indeed.
>
We will see...
>>
>
>> All you would need is a loop showing at a cuff or a chest. But I am
>> getting ahead of myself. :)
>
> Yes. That would be enough and not too difficult. The kid himself should
> be rather straightforward as Poser modelling goes.
>
Thinking about it. Unless you are doing a closeup they won't be visible.
Hang! the chains. ;)
>>
>> I must say that book made an impression on me. I read it in the late
>> 70's and I remember a lot.
>>
>
> Oh yes indeed; disturbing and fascinating at the same time. It has not
> lost its attraction either. It was a new way of writing SF at the time
> although I don't think it was really part of the 'New Wave' as promoted
> by Harlan Ellison at the time, although certainly close in concept.
>
I think that there was new wave and New Wave. One was used to sell books.
Cynical. Moi? :)
--
Regards
Stephen
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On 30-7-2016 12:22, Stephen wrote:
> On 7/29/2016 12:48 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 29-7-2016 11:09, Stephen wrote:
>>> On 7/29/2016 7:58 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>> On 28-7-2016 16:08, Stephen wrote:
>
>>
>> It is a thought. I need to read the book again to get the mood again; it
>> has been a while since last time.
>>
>
> My paperback is in storage. I have a epub version but it is not the same
> as a hardcopy. Especially when the writing gets disjointed and tells
> bits of its own story.
Yes, there is that. I cannot concentrate on digital. I need the touch,
smell and history of the hardcopy. And I need books around me in the house.
>
>>> I've found a free scorpion mesh but it is not articulated. I should be
>>> able to pose it in Blender.
>>
>> That should be possible indeed.
>>
>
> We will see...
>
>>>
>>
>>> All you would need is a loop showing at a cuff or a chest. But I am
>>> getting ahead of myself. :)
>>
>> Yes. That would be enough and not too difficult. The kid himself should
>> be rather straightforward as Poser modelling goes.
>>
>
> Thinking about it. Unless you are doing a closeup they won't be visible.
> Hang! the chains. ;)
Indeed. No matter; the orchid will make a nice addition though.
>
>>>
>>> I must say that book made an impression on me. I read it in the late
>>> 70's and I remember a lot.
>>>
>>
>> Oh yes indeed; disturbing and fascinating at the same time. It has not
>> lost its attraction either. It was a new way of writing SF at the time
>> although I don't think it was really part of the 'New Wave' as promoted
>> by Harlan Ellison at the time, although certainly close in concept.
>>
>
> I think that there was new wave and New Wave. One was used to sell books.
> Cynical. Moi? :)
>
Oh, you are absolutely right to be cynical! The percentage of trash did
not change at all before or after ;-)
--
Thomas
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On 7/30/2016 12:11 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 30-7-2016 12:22, Stephen wrote:
>> On 7/29/2016 12:48 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>> On 29-7-2016 11:09, Stephen wrote:
>>>> On 7/29/2016 7:58 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>>> On 28-7-2016 16:08, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> It is a thought. I need to read the book again to get the mood again; it
>>> has been a while since last time.
>>>
>>
>> My paperback is in storage. I have a epub version but it is not the same
>> as a hardcopy. Especially when the writing gets disjointed and tells
>> bits of its own story.
>
> Yes, there is that. I cannot concentrate on digital. I need the touch,
> smell and history of the hardcopy. And I need books around me in the house.
>
On the other hand. These old tomes are heavy and bulky. But for some
books you need the smell of foxing. :)
>>
>>>> I've found a free scorpion mesh but it is not articulated. I should be
>>>> able to pose it in Blender.
>>>
>>> That should be possible indeed.
>>>
>>
>> We will see...
>>
I don't think the scorpion will work. It would either look stupid
standing on its hind legs or be six feet high and twenty feet long.
I have a dragon with gossamer wings. That should be a challenge.
>>
>> Thinking about it. Unless you are doing a closeup they won't be visible.
>> Hang! the chains. ;)
>
> Indeed. No matter; the orchid will make a nice addition though.
>
That is one of the most stupid weapons imagined. Zelazny would have done
better.
>>
>> I think that there was new wave and New Wave. One was used to sell books.
>> Cynical. Moi? :)
>>
> Oh, you are absolutely right to be cynical! The percentage of trash did
> not change at all before or after ;-)
>
No but it did raise the standard overall. It seems to have dropped back
a bit now. </ Good old days rant>
--
Regards
Stephen
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On 30-7-2016 14:31, Stephen wrote:
> On 7/30/2016 12:11 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 30-7-2016 12:22, Stephen wrote:
>>> On 7/29/2016 12:48 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>> On 29-7-2016 11:09, Stephen wrote:
>>>>> On 7/29/2016 7:58 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>>>> On 28-7-2016 16:08, Stephen wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is a thought. I need to read the book again to get the mood
>>>> again; it
>>>> has been a while since last time.
>>>>
>>>
>>> My paperback is in storage. I have a epub version but it is not the same
>>> as a hardcopy. Especially when the writing gets disjointed and tells
>>> bits of its own story.
>>
>> Yes, there is that. I cannot concentrate on digital. I need the touch,
>> smell and history of the hardcopy. And I need books around me in the
>> house.
>>
>
> On the other hand. These old tomes are heavy and bulky. But for some
> books you need the smell of foxing. :)
Who cares, I like the struggling with those old volumes fighting back by
breaking at the spine, refusing to open correctly, showing printing
errors... and I do /not/ mistreat them at all. ;-) Fortunately, my wife
has some book binding skills so the damage can be repaired when necessary.
>
>>>
>>>>> I've found a free scorpion mesh but it is not articulated. I should be
>>>>> able to pose it in Blender.
>>>>
>>>> That should be possible indeed.
>>>>
>>>
>>> We will see...
>>>
>
>
> I don't think the scorpion will work. It would either look stupid
> standing on its hind legs or be six feet high and twenty feet long.
> I have a dragon with gossamer wings. That should be a challenge.
Dragon Lady then. I wonder how the scorpion in the book would show.
>
>
>>>
>>> Thinking about it. Unless you are doing a closeup they won't be visible.
>>> Hang! the chains. ;)
>>
>> Indeed. No matter; the orchid will make a nice addition though.
>>
>
> That is one of the most stupid weapons imagined. Zelazny would have done
> better.
Ha! Yes indeed! It is the most awkward thing imaginable and pretty
useless if you ask me except for keeping in the way when not called for.
>
>
>>>
>>> I think that there was new wave and New Wave. One was used to sell
>>> books.
>>> Cynical. Moi? :)
>>>
>> Oh, you are absolutely right to be cynical! The percentage of trash did
>> not change at all before or after ;-)
>>
>
> No but it did raise the standard overall. It seems to have dropped back
> a bit now. </ Good old days rant>
>
That is true. I am a bit out of touch with the post-2000 vintage though.
--
Thomas
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On 7/31/2016 7:52 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 30-7-2016 14:31, Stephen wrote:
>>
>> On the other hand. These old tomes are heavy and bulky. But for some
>> books you need the smell of foxing. :)
>
> Who cares, I like the struggling with those old volumes fighting back by
> breaking at the spine, refusing to open correctly, showing printing
> errors... and I do /not/ mistreat them at all. ;-) Fortunately, my wife
> has some book binding skills so the damage can be repaired when necessary.
>
Fortune, indeed.
I, on the other hand, have gone to the dark side. :)
>> I don't think the scorpion will work. It would either look stupid
>> standing on its hind legs or be six feet high and twenty feet long.
>> I have a dragon with gossamer wings. That should be a challenge.
>
> Dragon Lady then. I wonder how the scorpion in the book would show.
>
Now I will need to read the book. :)
I am trying to df3-ise a dragon model but I am running into problems
with the textures in the model. If any of my experiments look
interesting I will post the results.
>>
>> That is one of the most stupid weapons imagined. Zelazny would have done
>> better.
>
> Ha! Yes indeed! It is the most awkward thing imaginable and pretty
> useless if you ask me except for keeping in the way when not called for.
>
You would need reinforced pockets that's for sure.
>> No but it did raise the standard overall. It seems to have dropped back
>> a bit now. </ Good old days rant>
>>
>
> That is true. I am a bit out of touch with the post-2000 vintage though.
>
Me too.
--
Regards
Stephen
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On 1-8-2016 9:06, Stephen wrote:
> On 7/31/2016 7:52 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 30-7-2016 14:31, Stephen wrote:
>
>>>
>>> On the other hand. These old tomes are heavy and bulky. But for some
>>> books you need the smell of foxing. :)
>>
>> Who cares, I like the struggling with those old volumes fighting back by
>> breaking at the spine, refusing to open correctly, showing printing
>> errors... and I do /not/ mistreat them at all. ;-) Fortunately, my wife
>> has some book binding skills so the damage can be repaired when
>> necessary.
>>
>
> Fortune, indeed.
>
> I, on the other hand, have gone to the dark side. :)
>
tsk tsk...
>
>>> I don't think the scorpion will work. It would either look stupid
>>> standing on its hind legs or be six feet high and twenty feet long.
>>> I have a dragon with gossamer wings. That should be a challenge.
>>
>> Dragon Lady then. I wonder how the scorpion in the book would show.
>>
>
> Now I will need to read the book. :)
> I am trying to df3-ise a dragon model but I am running into problems
> with the textures in the model. If any of my experiments look
> interesting I will post the results.
>
OK. I am working now on the river and bridge of Bellona. I am going to
diverge from the book description somewhat but it is the mood that is
important. I also would like to include the tree/woman from the ritual
initiation scene (that is how I interpret it somehow).
>
>
>>>
>>> That is one of the most stupid weapons imagined. Zelazny would have done
>>> better.
>>
>> Ha! Yes indeed! It is the most awkward thing imaginable and pretty
>> useless if you ask me except for keeping in the way when not called for.
>>
>
> You would need reinforced pockets that's for sure.
>
Not by chance that the kid keeps it dangling from his belt ;-) (pretty
dangerous too)
>
>>> No but it did raise the standard overall. It seems to have dropped back
>>> a bit now. </ Good old days rant>
>>>
>>
>> That is true. I am a bit out of touch with the post-2000 vintage though.
>>
>
> Me too.
>
--
Thomas
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