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From: Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann
Subject: Military Khyberspace!
Date: 2 Mar 2016 06:56:20
Message: <56d6d4e4$1@news.povray.org>
Hi(gh)!

Surely I'm not the only one who dreams of creating a virtual 
Afghanistan... with sufficient manpower behind, others are already far 
more advanced: https://www.metavr.com/technology/afghan_village.html

This is about the level of realism I would like to achieve - of course 
in a pre-war (1973 mode) and an alternate history (Afghatopia mode) 
setting! And not necessarily in POV-Ray alone - for real-time 
interactivity, I will have to switch to X3D or even basic OpenGL 
programming...

See you in Khyberspace!

Yadgar


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Military Khyberspace!
Date: 2 Mar 2016 07:09:58
Message: <56d6d816$1@news.povray.org>
On 3/2/2016 12:56 PM, Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann wrote:
> Hi(gh)!
>
> Surely I'm not the only one who dreams of creating a virtual
> Afghanistan... with sufficient manpower behind, others are already far
> more advanced: https://www.metavr.com/technology/afghan_village.html
>
> This is about the level of realism I would like to achieve - of course
> in a pre-war (1973 mode) and an alternate history (Afghatopia mode)
> setting! And not necessarily in POV-Ray alone - for real-time
> interactivity, I will have to switch to X3D or even basic OpenGL
> programming...
>
> See you in Khyberspace!
>

I must say that you don't think small. :-)

We all have dreams.


-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Military Khyberspace!
Date: 2 Mar 2016 07:30:32
Message: <56d6dce8$1@news.povray.org>
On 2-3-2016 13:09, Stephen wrote:
> On 3/2/2016 12:56 PM, Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann wrote:
>> Hi(gh)!
>>
>> Surely I'm not the only one who dreams of creating a virtual
>> Afghanistan... with sufficient manpower behind, others are already far
>> more advanced: https://www.metavr.com/technology/afghan_village.html
>>
>> This is about the level of realism I would like to achieve - of course
>> in a pre-war (1973 mode) and an alternate history (Afghatopia mode)
>> setting! And not necessarily in POV-Ray alone - for real-time
>> interactivity, I will have to switch to X3D or even basic OpenGL
>> programming...
>>
>> See you in Khyberspace!
>>
>
> I must say that you don't think small. :-)
>
> We all have dreams.
>
>

You will note that the buildings are mostly simple cubes with a 
realistic image_map applied. This is a simple way to get fast and 
realistic-looking environments. For the foreground you could use more 
sophisticated models of course.

-- 
Thomas


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From: Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann
Subject: Re: Military Khyberspace!
Date: 2 Mar 2016 07:52:54
Message: <56d6e226$1@news.povray.org>
Hi(gh)!

On 02.03.2016 13:09, Stephen wrote:

> I must say that you don't think small. :-)
>
> We all have dreams.

And, unless I find same-minded people for collaboration, I'll have to 
live a much longer lifespan than ordinarily found in humans - at least a 
high 3-digit, if not a 4-digit one! I doubt that Transhumanist 
technologies will arrive in time for me - I'm already 46 and, due to 
massive overweight, at least currently not a candidate for becoming a 
centenarian...

So, what about Khyberspace?

See you there... at least at KBL!

Yadgar


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Military Khyberspace!
Date: 2 Mar 2016 08:22:09
Message: <56d6e901$1@news.povray.org>
On 3/2/2016 1:53 PM, Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann wrote:
> Hi(gh)!
>
> On 02.03.2016 13:09, Stephen wrote:
>
>> I must say that you don't think small. :-)
>>
>> We all have dreams.
>
> And, unless I find same-minded people for collaboration, I'll have to
> live a much longer lifespan than ordinarily found in humans - at least a
> high 3-digit, if not a 4-digit one! I doubt that Transhumanist
> technologies will arrive in time for me - I'm already 46 and, due to
> massive overweight, at least currently not a candidate for becoming a
> centenarian...
>

Maybe PovRay is not the correct tool for that. A game engine might be 
better. With the uv maps rendered in PovRay, of course. :-)

> So, what about Khyberspace?
>

Yes, what about Khyberspace, indeed!
Are you still going on with it?



> See you there... at least at KBL!
>
> Yadgar
>


-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann
Subject: Re: Military Khyberspace!
Date: 2 Mar 2016 08:45:58
Message: <56d6ee96$1@news.povray.org>
Hi(gh)!

On 02.03.2016 14:22, Stephen wrote:

> Yes, what about Khyberspace, indeed!
> Are you still going on with it?

Yes, I do... at the very moment, I'm sitting at the Kabul 1:100,000 
heightfield (equalling about 12.5 metres from pixel to pixel) and pixel 
my way along the mountain chain bordering the city in the southeast...

Automatic contour line interpolation is something too difficult for me, 
at least for the time being (I tried to write a C++ program to do this 
last autumn, but the results were far from satisfying), and even with 
the best interpolation program, manual post-processing would be 
necessary - which also means programming a special editor for 16-bit 
POV-Ray heightfields!

As neither extreme longevity (1000 years or longer) nor collaborators in 
the POV-Ray (and, later on, X3D/OpenGL) community are in sight, I 
probably have to instill the love of Afghanistan and programming in my 
little nephew, who just turned 3 years old in February... (and who is 
really fond of his weird fat long-haired bearded uncle...)!

See you in Khyberspace!

Yadgar


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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: Re: Military Khyberspace!
Date: 2 Mar 2016 10:02:25
Message: <56d70081$1@news.povray.org>
I experimented with the UNITY game engine. For some uses, it can be
downloaded (legally) free of cost.






On 02.03.2016 08:22, Stephen wrote:
> Maybe PovRay is not the correct tool for that. A game engine might be
> better. With the uv maps rendered in PovRay, of course. :-)


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From: Bald Eagle
Subject: Re: Military Khyberspace!
Date: 2 Mar 2016 11:20:01
Message: <web.56d7119bd3cf07cd5e7df57c0@news.povray.org>
=?UTF-8?B?SsO2cmcgJ1lhZGdhcicgQmxlaW1hbm4=?= <yazdegird@gmx.de> wrote:
>  https://www.metavr.com/technology/afghan_village.html


Wow - that's kind of disturbing.
I guess if you had the backing of the Military-Industrial Complex, you could
just laser-scan all of Afghanistan and render it as a mesh, then overlay it with
a UV-map stitched together from satellite imagery...


Keep working on your stuff.   You'll make some progress.
Keep in mind that taking breaks can seemingly paradoxically make you more
productive.   Do something to get the blood moving, clear the mind, and refresh
the body.


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From: Tom Millican
Subject: Re: Military Khyberspace!
Date: 2 Apr 2016 15:36:02
Message: <20160402153450.88a4f145a165b0abee3d75d5@millicansmeads.com>
I'm a little behind on things, but if it's still helpful, there are sources for
geotiffs if they can be easily used or converted to heightfields. 
http://topotools.cr.usgs.gov/gmted_viewer/viewer.htm



On Wed,  2 Mar 2016 11:15:23 EST
"Bald Eagle" <cre### [at] netscapenet> wrote:

> =?UTF-8?B?SsO2cmcgJ1lhZGdhcicgQmxlaW1hbm4=?= <yazdegird@gmx.de> wrote:
> >  https://www.metavr.com/technology/afghan_village.html
> 
> 
> Wow - that's kind of disturbing.
> I guess if you had the backing of the Military-Industrial Complex, you could
> just laser-scan all of Afghanistan and render it as a mesh, then overlay it with
> a UV-map stitched together from satellite imagery...
> 
> 
> Keep working on your stuff.   You'll make some progress.
> Keep in mind that taking breaks can seemingly paradoxically make you more
> productive.   Do something to get the blood moving, clear the mind, and refresh
> the body.
> 
> 
> 


-- 
Tom Millican <mil### [at] millicansmeadscom>


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