Beta 28 is now available for Windows 32-bit. 64-bit will follow shortly. I
will also be updating the source to beta 28 in the next day or so.

I can't at this point provide any information about the availability of
Linux binaries, however with the source updated it will be fairly easy for
Linux users to build their own.

-- Chris

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Chris Cason wrote:
> Beta 28 is now available for Windows 32-bit. 64-bit will follow shortly. I
> will also be updating the source to beta 28 in the next day or so.
> 
> I can't at this point provide any information about the availability of
> Linux binaries, however with the source updated it will be fairly easy for
> Linux users to build their own.
> 
> -- Chris

This might be a dumb question, but now that we're using an installer, 
should we uninstall the old beta before installing the new one or simply 
install over it?

...Chambers

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"Chambers" <ben### [at] pacificwebguycom> wrote in message 
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>
> should we uninstall the old beta before installing the new one or simply 
> install over it?


I tried to install as-is and got a message stating the previous one must be 
uninstalled. Says the same in the actual installer, too, but after the fact. 
I figured that was best anyway but I actually saw your message here first 
and thought I'd take the risk. ;)

Problem is... it never finished the install, giving a error 1925. Says it 
couldn't be done without administrator privileges (or some such), and yet 
the Vista OS user account was already set to that being the only one 
present.

Added another account, set that to administrator and the original to 
standard user. Staying logged in and switching to the new administrator 
account, again the installer was interrupted by that same error 1925.

Still haven't tried going back to the now "standard" user account to try it 
that way, just about to do that so I will post back here.The installer 
choices (radio buttons) of one user or all did not change the end result so 
far.

Bob

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"Bob Hughes" <omniverse charter net> wrote in message 
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> ---8<---snip---
> Added another account, set that to administrator and the original to 
> standard user. Staying logged in and switching to the new administrator 
> account, again the installer was interrupted by that same error 1925.
>
> Still haven't tried going back to the now "standard" user account to try 
> it that way, just about to do that so I will post back here.The installer 
> choices (radio buttons) of one user or all did not change the end result 
> so far.


no luck going back to "standard" user account and also logging off the 
administrator account (did have both logged on before). The installer seems 
to want administrator privileges regardless of the "Only for me" choice.

-- 
/*bob hughes*/

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This is only a guess about why I succeeded in getting the beta 28 installer 
to put POV onto my Vista Home notebook... UAC set to off. Simple as that 
maybe. However, I don't know anything about multiple users in Windows having 
seldom ever done it. And Vista is a complete unknown to me in that 
department.

The installer actually greyed out the two choices for "only me" or "all", so 
apparently without UAC it ignores that. Now this is the confusing part, I 
believe I ran the installer from the new administrator account yet the file 
was in my other user/downloads subfolder. The greyed out portion still had 
the "me" option as the other user name and not the new user.

Maybe others of you know about this user account stuff and understand that, 
I sure can't explain it or if it might be something peculiar to the beta 28 
installer itself.

To further describe my particular experience with this, I found I needed to 
get the povray.ini and quickres.ini files put back in place like I had been 
using them. The readme.txt in the installation folders \Scenes\ and \ini\ 
certainly help but since Vista (Home anyhow) has the destination paths 
hidden and a different location (AppData\Roaming) from XP or 2000, as told 
of, I'm still wondering what will happen when people try to migrate from 3.6 
to 3.7 and can't figure this out.

Also, trouble with writing to the \include\ subfolder, lacking permission. 
What I'm doing now is making a C:\include\ folder to put INC files into and 
then adding that to the povray.ini library paths, which in itself isn't 
straightfoward yet since the tools.ini isn't available for editing from 
within POV-Ray itself.

I don't want to be negative about the whole thing... ;^) I like the new look 
and installer thus far. Congrats on the work.

-- 
/*bob hughes*/

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On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 23:25:50 -0500, "Bob Hughes" <omniverse charter net> wrote:

>
>Problem is... it never finished the install, giving a error 1925. Says it 
>couldn't be done without administrator privileges (or some such), and yet 
>the Vista OS user account was already set to that being the only one 
>present.

I had problems too. I could not install it as an administrator neither as a
single user nor multi user ??? So I switched of the User Account Control. 

I disconnected from the internet then:
Switched off UAC 
Restart
install Pov
Switched on UAC 
Restart
Play with Pov-Ray :)
-- 

Regards
     Stephen

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Apologies to those who attempted to install on Vista and weren't able to.

The problem was due to the fact that despite setting the INSTALLPATH
property to the appropriate location (under AppData), Windows Installer was
still attempting to install the files into program files. This should now
be rectified. There will still most likely be weirdness installing for all
users under Vista - probably UAC will not trigger, blocking the install.
This isn't really an issue since All Users isn't fully supported yet.

-- Chris

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On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 06:25:50 +0200, Bob Hughes <omniverse charter <"net>">  
wrote:
> Problem is... it never finished the install, giving a error 1925. Says  
> it couldn't be done without administrator privileges (or some such), and  
> yet the Vista OS user account was already set to that being the only one  
> present.
>
> Added another account, set that to administrator and the original to  
> standard user. Staying logged in and switching to the new administrator  
> account, again the installer was interrupted by that same error 1925.

Under Vista, with UAC enabled, even administrator accounts do not have  
full administrator privileges. Either disable UAC or right-click the  
executable and choose "Run as administrator".

Typically, Vista will notify you when an installer needs administrative  
privileges, and prompt the user, but not always. It may have something to  
do with the name of the installer; at least that is how it worked in XP.



-- 
FE

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Chris Cason <del### [at] deletethistoopovrayorg> wrote:
> Beta 28 is now available for Windows 32-bit. 64-bit will follow shortly. I
> will also be updating the source to beta 28 in the next day or so.

3.7 beta 28 installed perfectly on Vista Basic with UAC turned on, no errors
like the 27 version.

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"Chris Cason" <del### [at] deletethistoopovrayorg> wrote in 
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> Apologies to those who attempted to install on Vista and weren't able to.
>
> The problem was due to the fact that despite setting the INSTALLPATH
> property to the appropriate location (under AppData), Windows Installer 
> was
> still attempting to install the files into program files. This should now
> be rectified. There will still most likely be weirdness installing for all
> users under Vista - probably UAC will not trigger, blocking the install.
> This isn't really an issue since All Users isn't fully supported yet.


Good to know there was a reason other than something I was doing with Vista. 
Glad you figured it out Chris.

As the others have said, UAC off was what finally made sense, which must 
have been the difference between a no-go and successful install. I chose to 
try this in the middle of the night (again) when I wasn't thinking clearly 
to begin with.

Curious thing then that the posting by SafePit here was okay even though UAC 
was on... something about Vista Basic? This was another lesson for me in 
using Vista, to look at UAC first not last.
-- 
/*bob hughes*/

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