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From: Alessandro Coppo
Subject: Re: Suggestions for new POV-Ray Win Features
Date: 6 Nov 1998 07:07:39
Message: <3642e68b.0@news.povray.org>
I am sorry to have started a kind of flame war. I was just upset by the fact
that the possibility of wrapping a GREAT platform-INDIPENDENT ray tracing
engine with equally GREAT platform-DEPENDENT shells was explicitly
prohibited and that this decision really looks definitive.

Please consider the whole matter over.

Alessandro Coppo

P.S.: thanks for the Panorama URL...


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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: Suggestions for new POV-Ray Win Features
Date: 6 Nov 1998 08:46:13
Message: <3642fda5.0@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:11:00 +0100, Alessandro Coppo <a.c### [at] iolit> wrote:
>I am sorry to have started a kind of flame war. I was just upset by the fact
>that the possibility of wrapping a GREAT platform-INDIPENDENT ray tracing
>engine with equally GREAT platform-DEPENDENT shells was explicitly
>prohibited and that this decision really looks definitive.

No, it's not prohibited; you just have to do it in one of the prescribed
ways: either with a GUI-extension (which comes with its own, even more
restrictive, set of rules) or on the command line.  You may, of course, 
write a COM or DCOM object that invokes POV via the command line. You 
just can't add COM or DCOM interfaces directly to POV.

There's an alternative, of course.  From POVLEGAL:

   The user is granted the privilege to modify and compile the source 
   code for their own personal use in any fashion they see fit. What 
   you do with the software in your own home is your business.

and

   The user is encouraged to send enhancements and bug fixes to the 
   POV-Ray Team, but the team is in no way required to utilize these 
   enhancements or fixes.

So, you can write all the COM or DCOM interfaces you want, but you can't
distribute a custom version that incorporates them unless you can get 
them into an official version of POV.  Sounds reasonable to me.  Just
remember that you should send a short abstract of your work rather than
the complete source code when you approach the POV-Ray Team about getting
your enhancement added.


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From: Scott Hill
Subject: Re: Suggestions for new POV-Ray Win Features
Date: 9 Nov 1998 06:03:13
Message: <01be08db$6fdb0fc0$8c00a8c0@shindo>
Markus Becker <bec### [at] zessuni-siegende> wrote in article
<36402B46.764A4D39@zess.uni-siegen.de>...
> Scott Hill wrote:
> > 
> >         I think it was meant to be an anti-windows, all windows users
are as thick
> > as shit type comment, not one on the availability of POV for the
windows
> > platform.
> > 
> >         Just ignore him, he may grow up one day.
> 
> 1) I think I'm grown up.
> 2) It wasn't anti-windows (can't be, since I'm using Windows since
>    the dark days of 3.0, and, hell, I _love_ it ;-)
> 3) It was meant to be an ironic remark.
> 
> But feel free to ignore me, I can live with it.
> 

	Sorry Marcus, I was probably having a bad day or something, anyhow I
didn't realise it was meant to be ironic (like Alan, I managed to miss that
smiley) and I there are people out there that will make comments like yours
and will mean it as some kind of anti-MS or anti-windows thing and that
tends to really piss me off - usually I don't give them the satisfaction of
responding to their infantile attitudes, but, as I said, you probably
caught me on a bad day.

-- 
Scott Hill
Sco### [at] DDLinkscouk
Software Engineer (and all round nice guy)
Author of Pandora's Box
Company homepage : http://www.ddlinks.demon.co.uk

"The best trick the devil ever pulled was convincing people he didn't
exist..."
								- Verbal Kint.

"the Internet is here so we can waste time talking about nothing in 
 particular when we should be working" - Marcus Hill.


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From: Markus Becker
Subject: Re: Suggestions for new POV-Ray Win Features
Date: 9 Nov 1998 08:53:15
Message: <3646F479.2EB0D504@zess.uni-siegen.de>
No problem. At first I thought to omit the smiley
completely, but then it would really have started
a flame war...

Markus

P.S.: ;-)


Scott Hill wrote:
> 
> Markus Becker <bec### [at] zessuni-siegende> wrote in article
> <36402B46.764A4D39@zess.uni-siegen.de>...
> > Scott Hill wrote:
> > >
> > >         I think it was meant to be an anti-windows, all windows users
> are as thick
> > > as shit type comment, not one on the availability of POV for the
> windows
> > > platform.
> > >
> > >         Just ignore him, he may grow up one day.
> >
> > 1) I think I'm grown up.
> > 2) It wasn't anti-windows (can't be, since I'm using Windows since
> >    the dark days of 3.0, and, hell, I _love_ it ;-)
> > 3) It was meant to be an ironic remark.
> >
> > But feel free to ignore me, I can live with it.
> >
> 
>         Sorry Marcus, I was probably having a bad day or something, anyhow I
> didn't realise it was meant to be ironic (like Alan, I managed to miss that
> smiley) and I there are people out there that will make comments like yours
> and will mean it as some kind of anti-MS or anti-windows thing and that
> tends to really piss me off - usually I don't give them the satisfaction of
> responding to their infantile attitudes, but, as I said, you probably
> caught me on a bad day.
> 
> --
> Scott Hill
> Sco### [at] DDLinkscouk
> Software Engineer (and all round nice guy)
> Author of Pandora's Box
> Company homepage : http://www.ddlinks.demon.co.uk
> 
> "The best trick the devil ever pulled was convincing people he didn't
> exist..."
>                                                                 - Verbal Kint.
> 
> "the Internet is here so we can waste time talking about nothing in
>  particular when we should be working" - Marcus Hill.


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