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From: Tom Galvin
Subject: Re: This year's most ARROGANT email
Date: 28 Sep 1998 12:39:31
Message: <360fadb3.0@news.povray.org>
povray.org admin team wrote in message
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>"Tom Galvin" <tga### [at] dataforgecom> wrote:
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>>>We (the collective 'we' here being, I suppose, any non-American English
>>>speaker, though I can hardly profess to speak for all of them) don't mind
>>>Americans changing the language in the least

>This is the whole point, one that some readers have failed to 'get'.

Whoa Tex!  I think everyone has gotten the point.  I wasn't meaning to bash
anyone.  I was just poking fun at the different dialects of English.  I grew
up surrounded by Brouges and Bronx accents that were constantly harping on
my use of the English language.
    There aint no such word as aint...
    Don't say "me and Joe", it's "Joe and me"
Tom


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From: povray org admin team
Subject: Re: This year's most ARROGANT email
Date: 28 Sep 1998 20:48:43
Message: <36101ffa.354760@news.povray.org>
"Tom Galvin" <tga### [at] dataforgecom> wrote:

>
>povray.org admin team wrote in message
><361426a9.436588571@news.povray.org>...
>>"Tom Galvin" <tga### [at] dataforgecom> wrote:
>>
>>>>We (the collective 'we' here being, I suppose, any non-American English
>>>>speaker, though I can hardly profess to speak for all of them) don't mind
>>>>Americans changing the language in the least
>
>>This is the whole point, one that some readers have failed to 'get'.
>
>Whoa Tex!  I think everyone has gotten the point.  I wasn't meaning to bash
>anyone.  I was just poking fun at the different dialects of English.  I grew
>up surrounded by Brouges and Bronx accents that were constantly harping on
>my use of the English language.
>    There aint no such word as aint...
>    Don't say "me and Joe", it's "Joe and me"

                  bau### [at] thiazicscornelledu (Garth Baulch)
                       Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY
                          (rec_humor_cull, chuckle)

A linguistics professor was lecturing to his class one day about the fact that
in many languages, such as English, a double negative forms a positive, while
in other languages, such as Russian, a double negative is still a negative.
"However," he pointed out, "in no language can a double positive form a
negative." 

A bored voice from the back of the room responded, "Yeah, yeah...."


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From: F VERBAAS
Subject: Re: This year's most ARROGANT email
Date: 29 Sep 1998 18:53:43
Message: <361156e7.0@news.povray.org>
To avoid annoying discussions on dialects and grammar changing with time I
herewith propose to make Latin the official language for POV. It is well
defined, it has been pretty stable over the last two millennia, it and it
does not use composed characters.

Frans


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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: This year's most ARROGANT email
Date: 29 Sep 1998 20:27:45
Message: <36116cf1.0@news.povray.org>
Scientia est potestas!!!

--
Lance.


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: This year's most ARROGANT email
Date: 29 Sep 1998 20:35:27
Message: <36116E98.8040335A@pacbell.net>
Lance Birch wrote:

> Scientia est potestas!!!

Morituri' Pov Saluta'mus  (we about to pov salute thee)

K.Tyler


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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: This year's most ARROGANT email
Date: 29 Sep 1998 21:41:00
Message: <36117e1c.0@news.povray.org>
Sona si Latine loqueris!!!

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Lance.


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: This year's most ARROGANT email
Date: 29 Sep 1998 23:40:58
Message: <36119A0E.CED5BDFD@pacbell.net>
Ve'ni, vi'di, vi'ci, di'es ir'ae.
Vae vic'tis, sic tran'sit glo'ria mun'di.

Ke'n


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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: This year's most ARROGANT email
Date: 30 Sep 1998 00:28:49
Message: <3611a571.0@news.povray.org>
Um, Ken... I don't ACTUALLY speak Latin!  (Despite the my last post :-* Hey,
did you honk? ;-)

> Ve'ni, vi'di, vi'ci, di'es ir'ae.
> Vae vic'tis, sic tran'sit glo'ria mun'di.

Anyway, what does your message translate to???

Si hoc signum legere potes, operis boni in rebus Latinus alacribus et
fructuosis potiri potes! :-)

And just for fun:

Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad
caput tuum saxum immane mittam.

or

Anulos qui animum ostendunt omnes gestemus! (OK, maybe not)

HAVE FUN!!!

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From: Mark Radosevich
Subject: Re: This year's most ARROGANT email
Date: 30 Sep 1998 04:02:14
Message: <3611D82C.539E8455@randolph.spa.edu>
Lance Birch wrote:
> 
> Um, Ken... I don't ACTUALLY speak Latin!  (Despite the my last post :-* Hey,
> did you honk? ;-)
> 
> > Ve'ni, vi'di, vi'ci, di'es ir'ae.
> > Vae vic'tis, sic tran'sit glo'ria mun'di.
> 
> Anyway, what does your message translate to???

Veni vidi vici--quote from Julius Caesar's autobiographical account of a
military encounter... traditionally translated as "I came, I saw, I
conquered." Vici can also be translated as "I overcame," giving the quote even
more repetition, but I digress (even further).

"Dies irae... Day of Wrath. A thirteenth-century Latin hymn on the Day of
Judgement, sung at the requiem mass." (from 'Amo, Amas, Amat and More', by
Eugene Ehrlich)

Vae victis--woe to the conquered. Spoken, I believe, by a "barbarian" (from
the latin for "beard") conquerer of Rome. He reportedly uttered this while
forcing the Roman citizens to pay him a certain weight in gold. When they
objected, he threw his sword on the side of the scale with the weight,
requiring even more gold to balance the scale...
"The words, literally 'woe to the vanquished,' attributed by Livy [famous
Roman historian] to Brennus, a chief of the Gauls arranging terms of peace
with the Romans in 390 BC..." (ibid.)

"Sic transit gloria mundi... so passes away the glory of the world. ...used at
the oronation of a pope..." (ibid.)

Ibid.-- an abbreviation for "ibidem", translated as "in the same place".


> Si hoc signum legere potes, operis boni in rebus Latinus alacribus et
> fructuosis potiri potes! :-)

Somehow, these services haven't been in much demand, lately... except for this
message, of course. I guess that's what I get for studying a "dead" language
(by which I mean that it is no one's native tongue. It may be the Vatican's
official language, but they aren't exactly known for keeping up to date.)

> Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad
> caput tuum saxum immane mittam.

That's not usually a phrase I can laugh at :)

> or
> 
> Anulos qui animum ostendunt omnes gestemus! (OK, maybe not)

Ack! You forced me to get my Latin dictionary. (I didn't stick with Latin for
long.) And... my only response is that we're certainly displaying something
here, with all of this Latin... anyway...

> HAVE FUN!!!
> 
> --
> Lance.

For someone who doesn't speak Latin...
...actually, (nearly) no one speaks latin anymore. Some people can read it;
and some of them can read it well.

(Latin provided by Henry Beard:)

Care Sancte Nicholas, aveo horologium manuale Rolicis, quattuor vestitus
Armanios, et curram a Ferrario factum.



An afterthought--wouldn't Esperanto be a better choice for a POV language? It
was designed to be nice to deal with... the only major drawback being that I
don't know anyone who speaks it (including myself).


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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: This year's most ARROGANT email
Date: 30 Sep 1998 10:59:33
Message: <36123945.0@news.povray.org>
You really know what you're on about, don't you?!

Here's another one for you:

Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota
monax materiam possit materiari?

He he he...

WOW, I must be a real radix lecti to be sitting here typing this :-)

So, Prehende uxorem meam, sis! He he he...

Oh, I'm really getting stupid here, so:

Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est.  I prefer rice actually ;-)

Alright, I'm getting out of here now, I say ENOUGH stupidness!!!  (OH WHO
CARES, LET IT CONTINUE!!!!!!)

--
Lance.

YEAH TO LATIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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