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From: Matt Giwer
Subject: Speaking of the Photon Patch
Date: 9 Jul 1999 06:42:39
Message: <3785D227.36253A4F@giwersworld.org>
I ignored looking into it for months expecting it to be a Linux
patch. I can not be alone in that. Simply calling it a patch
suggests it is beyond the interest of any Windows user. 

	You will get a wider audience, and you have by one person, if
you find a different way to refer to it. 

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From: Nieminen Mika
Subject: Re: Speaking of the Photon Patch
Date: 9 Jul 1999 07:48:03
Message: <3785e173@news.povray.org>
Matt Giwer <mgi### [at] giwersworldorg> wrote:
: 	You will get a wider audience, and you have by one person, if
: you find a different way to refer to it. 

  Every patched povray is called a povray patch. Ever heard of the
superpatch?


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From: Jan Danielsson
Subject: Re: Speaking of the Photon Patch
Date: 10 Jul 1999 10:14:33
Message: <wnaqnavryffbasnyhaznvygryvnpbz.feo0l11.pminews@news.povray.org>
>	I ignored looking into it for months expecting it to be a Linux
>patch. I can not be alone in that. Simply calling it a patch
>suggests it is beyond the interest of any Windows user. 

The word 'patch' has been used since long before linux was ever though of.

>	You will get a wider audience, and you have by one person, if
>you find a different way to refer to it. 

It is a patch, why call it something else?


There will always be terminology problems amongst computer users, the
important thing to remember is that 'the next guy' is just as right as you
are.

(Another great example is the word 'bitmap'. Many poeple confuse the word
with 'windows pictures'. In fact, the .bmp was first seen in OS/2. But that
still doesn't mean that a 'bitmap' is an 'OS/2 picture'. A bitmap is a bit
map. A map of bits. IBM do in fact in their developer docs mention that it's
not a good thing to call the OS/2 basic graphics format 'bitmap', because
that could in fact be just about any formats).

So.. Get used to not being pleased all the time. :-)


 /j


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From: Nathan Kopp
Subject: Re: Speaking of the Photon Patch
Date: 10 Jul 1999 16:29:40
Message: <3787AC1C.DF25EF32@Kopp.com>
Well, actually... I like to call it UVPov.  But that doesn't take away the
fact that it is a patched version, which means it is not supported by the
POV team.

-Nathan

Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
>         I ignored looking into it for months expecting it to be a Linux
> patch. I can not be alone in that. Simply calling it a patch
> suggests it is beyond the interest of any Windows user.
> 
>         You will get a wider audience, and you have by one person, if
> you find a different way to refer to it.
>


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From: Matt Giwer
Subject: Re: Speaking of the Photon Patch
Date: 11 Jul 1999 06:48:49
Message: <37887692.DDF93827@giwersworld.org>
Nieminen Mika wrote:

> Every patched povray is called a povray patch. Ever heard of the
> superpatch?
> 

	sPatch generates bicubic  surfaces based upon the internal
generation of surfaces. That is not a patch in the sense of
software. 

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From: Matt Giwer
Subject: Re: Speaking of the Photon Patch
Date: 11 Jul 1999 07:02:14
Message: <378879B7.1FF07EAE@giwersworld.org>
Jan Danielsson wrote:

> >       I ignored looking into it for months expecting it to be a Linux
> >patch. I can not be alone in that. Simply calling it a patch
> >suggests it is beyond the interest of any Windows user.

> The word 'patch' has been used since long before linux was ever though of.

	Yes, and patch was around when I got my first FORTRAN II program
running in October 1967. And after only two weeks at the teletype
with only a printed manual as guidance, I think that was notable
considering that was my first exposure to computers. 

	Is there anything else you wish to tell me?

> >       You will get a wider audience, and you have by one person, if
> >you find a different way to refer to it.

> It is a patch, why call it something else?

	A patch is something included for a recompile. This is the
recompile with the patch. 

> There will always be terminology problems amongst computer users, the
> important thing to remember is that 'the next guy' is just as right as you
> are.

	Yes, there ae always terminology problems and they are always
solved by inventing something even more obscure rather than using
something old that is misleading. 

> (Another great example is the word 'bitmap'. Many poeple confuse the word
> with 'windows pictures'. In fact, the .bmp was first seen in OS/2. But that
> still doesn't mean that a 'bitmap' is an 'OS/2 picture'. A bitmap is a bit
> map. A map of bits. IBM do in fact in their developer docs mention that it's
> not a good thing to call the OS/2 basic graphics format 'bitmap', because
> that could in fact be just about any formats).

	And DOS and Unix and CPM are separated by a common / or \ or
whatever. 

> So.. Get used to not being pleased all the time. :-)

	You can alias some of the terms all of the time and alias all of
the terms some of the time but you can not alias all of the terms
all of the time. 

	Good enough? 

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From: Alan Kong
Subject: Re: Speaking of the Photon Patch
Date: 11 Jul 1999 07:02:23
Message: <378c7553.361768190@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 09 Jul 1999 06:42:47 -0400, Matt Giwer <mgi### [at] giwersworldorg>
wrote:

>I ignored looking into it for months expecting it to be a Linux
>patch. I can not be alone in that. Simply calling it a patch
>suggests it is beyond the interest of any Windows user.

  Hi, Matt. Various threads have made references to older versions of both
Nathan's UVPov and Ron's Superpatch and trying to get them to work with
POV-Ray for Windows Codemax editor. You must have missed those posts.

  The .url for Nathan's pages documenting UVPov has been posted many, many
times, both in these groups and in Ken's Links Collection posted in the
p.a.f-a-q.

  Patches have always been applied to *all* versions of POV-Ray, be it
Windows, Mac, Amiga, MS-DOS, Unix, etc., both unofficial and official
versions. POV-Ray for Windows v3.1g is itself a patched version of v3.1e.

  You have been missing out on the action. Get UVPov at the following .url -

http://www.nathan.kopp.com/patched.htm

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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Speaking of the Photon Patch
Date: 13 Jul 1999 10:20:14
Message: <378b4b1e@news.povray.org>
Matt Giwer wrote in message <37887692.DDF93827@giwersworld.org>...
>Nieminen Mika wrote:
>
>> Every patched povray is called a povray patch. Ever heard of the
>> superpatch?
>>
>
> sPatch generates bicubic  surfaces based upon the internal
>generation of surfaces. That is not a patch in the sense of
>software.
>


sPatch is a program, SuperPatch is a version of pov with uvmaping,
spheresweeps, blurred reflection, angle dependedt reflection, isosurfaces
and many more features I'm sure I've forgotton.

Most modern games have patches and are calles that.

Gail
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