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From: october
Subject: Re: Where IS pov 3.5 for *nix anyway?
Date: 5 Dec 2001 14:33:39
Message: <3c0e7693$1@news.povray.org>
In article <3c0e6ec7@news.povray.org>, "Thorsten Froehlich"
<tho### [at] trfde> wrote:

> In article <3c0e652d@news.povray.org> , "october" <ext### [at] yahoocom>
> wrote:
> 
>> Anyone have any news on this subject?  Rumors?  Speculation?  I hate
>> rebooting into windows just to use the 3.5 beta ;)
> 
> Yes, this question is asked more than once a week in one for or the
> other. So pick any of the answers there:  It is ready when it is ready,
> no speculating or asking will change anything but waste your and our
> time.
> 

Then perhaps it WOULD be a good idea to post the summarization of these
responses on the http://www.povray.org page to prevent such wastes of
time (and newsgroup space) in the future?  Underneath the "Download a
public beta..." link there might be another link something like "POVray
3.5 for linux????"

 I think most nix povray users simply want to know why a port of our
favorite raytracer that does not require a working GUI has not become
available yet, even in a beta form.  Or more so, many (like myself) would
find even the information that a linux port IS being worked on quite
reassuring.

Thanks for your hard work on POV, your time and somewhat redundant
responses.

Waiting,

Jon Hoskins

aka October


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Where IS pov 3.5 for *nix anyway?
Date: 5 Dec 2001 14:56:55
Message: <3c0e7c07@news.povray.org>
Ron Parker <ron### [at] povrayorg> wrote:
: I'm not really qualified to make an installer for it all

  Would it work if you just distributed the compiled binary? Just make a zip
with the compiled executable file and that's it. The extra stuff (includes,
scenes) could be zipped and distributed in a separate packet. The docs can be
found in the web, I think.
  I can provide a Sparc-Solaris binary (although I can't assure that it will
work in another system if it has a different set of .so files...).

-- 
#macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -


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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: Where IS pov 3.5 for *nix anyway?
Date: 5 Dec 2001 16:04:07
Message: <slrna0t2u9.fae.ron.parker@fwi.com>
On 5 Dec 2001 14:56:55 -0500, Warp wrote:
> Ron Parker <ron### [at] povrayorg> wrote:
>: I'm not really qualified to make an installer for it all
> 
>   Would it work if you just distributed the compiled binary? Just make a zip
> with the compiled executable file and that's it. The extra stuff (includes,
> scenes) could be zipped and distributed in a separate packet. The docs can be
> found in the web, I think.

I could, but apparently some anthropologists in deepest Africa have 
happened upon rumors that Mark Gordon might still be alive and living
with a family of chimpanzees somewhere near the Olduvai Gorge, or 
something like that.  Anyway, he seems to be alive and well and I'm 
deferring to him as our Linux guy to decide what's to be done.

-- 
#macro R(L P)sphere{L F}cylinder{L P F}#end#macro P(V)merge{R(z+a z)R(-z a-z)R(a
-z-z-z a+z)torus{1F clipped_by{plane{a 0}}}translate V}#end#macro Z(a F T)merge{
P(z+a)P(z-a)R(-z-z-x a)pigment{rgbt 1}hollow interior{media{emission T}}finish{
reflection.1}}#end Z(-x-x.2y)Z(-x-x.4x)camera{location z*-10rotate x*90}


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From: october
Subject: Re: Where IS pov 3.5 for *nix anyway?
Date: 5 Dec 2001 16:06:52
Message: <3c0e8c6c@news.povray.org>
In article <3c0e7c07@news.povray.org>, "Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:

> Ron Parker <ron### [at] povrayorg> wrote: : I'm not really qualified to
> make an installer for it all
> 
>   Would it work if you just distributed the compiled binary? Just make a
>   zip
> with the compiled executable file and that's it. The extra stuff
> (includes, scenes) could be zipped and distributed in a separate packet.
> The docs can be found in the web, I think.
>   I can provide a Sparc-Solaris binary (although I can't assure that it
>   will
> work in another system if it has a different set of .so files...).
> 

Wow, progress!  It's just nice to even read the _suggestion_ that something
might become available.

Yes, there is already full documentation of 3.5 on the web and Christoph
Hormann did an excellent job porting the full win32 menus (with
pictures!) into a 2.5mb html document:
http://www.schunter.etc.tu-bs.de/~chris/imenu/insert_menu.html

A binary, a short shell script that opens vim (or editor of
choice), povfront and a browser full of locally accessed html (compliments
of Christoph) and linux users can be poving with 3.5!

Currently I run Mandrake 8.1 on an Intel platform.  I'm not a linux-guru
by a long shot but if I can assist in getting some nix binaries available
in _ANY_ way please let me know.  My work is seasonal and I have a few
months of free time just waiting for some sort of project.  :)

Best,

Jon Hoskins


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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: Where IS pov 3.5 for *nix anyway?
Date: 5 Dec 2001 16:10:15
Message: <slrna0t39p.fae.ron.parker@fwi.com>
On Wed, 05 Dec 2001 13:03:28 -0500, october wrote:
> Currently I run Mandrake 8.1 on an Intel platform.  I'm not a linux-guru
> by a long shot but if I can assist in getting some nix binaries available
> in _ANY_ way please let me know.  My work is seasonal and I have a few
> months of free time just waiting for some sort of project.  :)

Email me.  I need Linux pre-beta testers.

--
#macro R(L P)sphere{L __}cylinder{L P __}#end#macro P(_1)union{R(z+_ z)R(-z _-z)
R(_-z*3_+z)torus{1__ clipped_by{plane{_ 0}}}translate z+_1}#end#macro S(_)9-(_1-
_)*(_1-_)#end#macro Z(_1 _ __)union{P(_)P(-_)R(y-z-1_)translate.1*_1-y*8pigment{
rgb<S(7)S(5)S(3)>}}#if(_1)Z(_1-__,_,__)#end#end Z(10x*-2,.2)camera{rotate x*90}


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Where IS pov 3.5 for *nix anyway?
Date: 5 Dec 2001 17:48:23
Message: <3C0EA465.D6050F01@gmx.de>
october wrote:
> 
> Yes, there is already full documentation of 3.5 on the web and Christoph
> Hormann did an excellent job porting the full win32 menus (with
> pictures!) into a 2.5mb html document:
> http://www.schunter.etc.tu-bs.de/~chris/imenu/insert_menu.html
> 

Note that the html version is not updated to the newest version, i did not
yet have time to do this.

Christoph

-- 
Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde>
IsoWood include, radiosity tutorial, TransSkin and other 
things on: http://www.schunter.etc.tu-bs.de/~chris/


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From: Thierry B 
Subject: Re: Where IS pov 3.5 for *nix anyway?
Date: 6 Dec 2001 04:13:58
Message: <3C0F37CE.D2580624@chez.com>
Ron Parker wrote:
> 
> > Several of the people that have access to the source
> > code of POV-Ray 3.5 have successfully managed to compile
> > and run it. I think Warp is one of them. But right now,
> > the Team lacks a Linux/Unix specialist that could properly
> > test the binary and create the install scripts, etc.
> 
> Actually, we have one, but he's been dealing with more important
> issues lately.  I've been keeping the source working and doing
> tests, but I'm not really qualified to make an installer for it
> all, so we're hoping that now that our Linux guy has more time
> maybe we can get something out.
> 
  
  Why make an installer. Some Linux users can manually compile
  and install a program? Just UTSL :)

-- 
Thierry     exposant de trucs bizarres     http://la.buvette.org/exPOV/


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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: Where IS pov 3.5 for *nix anyway?
Date: 6 Dec 2001 05:45:13
Message: <3c0f4c39$1@news.povray.org>
In article <3C0F37CE.D2580624@chez.com> , "Thierry B." <oul### [at] chezcom> 
wrote:

>   Why make an installer. Some Linux users can manually compile
>   and install a program? Just UTSL :)

Keep in mind that you would get a _binary_, not source code!!!

    Thorsten


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From: Mark Gordon
Subject: Re: Where IS pov 3.5 for *nix anyway?
Date: 6 Dec 2001 08:22:38
Message: <3c0f711e@news.povray.org>
That's surprisingly close to the truth. ;-)

-Mark Gordon

In article <slr### [at] fwicom>, "Ron Parker"
<ron### [at] povrayorg> wrote:

> I could, but apparently some anthropologists in deepest Africa have
> happened upon rumors that Mark Gordon might still be alive and living
> with a family of chimpanzees somewhere near the Olduvai Gorge, or
> something like that.


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Where IS pov 3.5 for *nix anyway?
Date: 6 Dec 2001 08:48:39
Message: <3C0F77C8.53302E19@pacbell.net>
Mark Gordon wrote:
> 
> That's surprisingly close to the truth. ;-)

"The truth is out there". Mulder

-- 
Ken Tyler


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