Adrien Beau wrote:
> 
> Vahur Krouverk wrote:
> >
> > How about Java GUI for POV-Ray, which could run on XWindows and Windows?
> 
> Well, Netbeans is just waiting for you to write a new module!
> 
Yes, I thought about this as well (I saw Netbeans ad in some magazine,
DDJ IIRC) but time is limiting factor...

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Warp wrote:

>   Why make a GUI nobody will use anyways? (I wouldn't certainly use it
>   unless
> it had all the features emacs has; and if it had, how would it be
> different from emacs anyways? A couple of buttons... Big deal.)
> 
>   And see:
>   http://www.students.tut.fi/~warp/povVFAQ/miscVFAQ.html#guiforunix
> 

Emacs is great, if you have time to learn its features and how to configure 
it.
But for Artists this would be an obstacle and a reason to use the windows 
GUIed version of Povray which I think has some advantages (as mentioned 
earlier).


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On Mon, 03 Sep 2001 18:23:18 +0200, Sebastian Holtermann wrote:
>Warp wrote:
>
>>   Why make a GUI nobody will use anyways? (I wouldn't certainly use it
>>   unless
>> it had all the features emacs has; and if it had, how would it be
>> different from emacs anyways? A couple of buttons... Big deal.)
>> 
>>   And see:
>>   http://www.students.tut.fi/~warp/povVFAQ/miscVFAQ.html#guiforunix
>> 
>
>Emacs is great, if you have time to learn its features and how to configure 
>it.
>But for Artists this would be an obstacle and a reason to use the windows 
>GUIed version of Povray which I think has some advantages (as mentioned 
>earlier).

There are others around here that have already done the configuration.
The configuration is held in a single text file which is fairly short and
easily transferable from one system to another.  

I use emacs all the time, and the only thing I've had to learn is how to 
close the window and save my comments when I'm adding a log entry to a 
file in an RCS repository (C-c c).   

I move around the screen using the arrow keys the way I used to in windows,
I mark, copy, paste, cut and move text around the way I used to in the windows
POV editor, but as I'm using emacs I can have access to many additional features
at the press of a key, like my refontify is F8, goto line is F5, save is F2 exit
without saving F3 etc.  

There are menus which I access using the mouse, these menus offer more 
features than you can shake a stick at, so now I use emacs for almost all
my text editing weather it be perl, POV or bash.  

I use Pico for mail and news as it does everthing I want for those utils, 
loads fast and only has a few commands to learn.  

If you want an example emacs config file ".emacs", all you have to do is 
ask. 

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In article <3b8abdcc@news.povray.org>, "Sebastian Holtermann"
<Van### [at] gmxde> wrote:

> Will there be a GUI for XWindows in Povray 3.5? (Maybe Gtk/Qt/etc.)


I don't mind using emacs, vim, or any other text editor to make my pov
files but I still find one advantage in using (WINE) pov-win:  The
shortcut lists!  It is sooooo nice to be able to add (insert
object/texture/camera/etc. here) with only a couple of mouse clicks and
in most cases the inserted code includes commented-out options that I
otherwise might have completely forgotten about.

This is what I would most want in an "official gui" for pov-*nix.  A
mouse clickable interface with the full contents of the drop down lists
from the pov-win binaries.  And hey, the little preview images in 3.5 are
sweet too, although not nearly as essential.

IS there a way to create something like this for emacs/vim/other?

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October wrote:
> 
> I don't mind using emacs, vim, or any other text editor to make my pov
> files but I still find one advantage in using (WINE) pov-win:  The
> shortcut lists!  It is sooooo nice to be able to add (insert
> object/texture/camera/etc. here) with only a couple of mouse clicks and
> in most cases the inserted code includes commented-out options that I
> otherwise might have completely forgotten about.
> 
> This is what I would most want in an "official gui" for pov-*nix.  A
> mouse clickable interface with the full contents of the drop down lists
> from the pov-win binaries.  And hey, the little preview images in 3.5 are
> sweet too, although not nearly as essential.
> 
> IS there a way to create something like this for emacs/vim/other?

I think it would be possible to add a menu (without the pictures probably)
to the emacs pov-mode. Someone knowing a bit more about emacs lisp should
be able to write it.  

What i have meanwhile made is a transcript of the insert menu in form of a
html file: 

http://www.schunter.etc.tu-bs.de/~chris/imenu/insert_menu.html

(be careful, it's ~2.5 Mb with pictures)

Christoph

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In article <3BD### [at] gmxde>, "Christoph Hormann"
<chr### [at] gmxde> wrote:

> October wrote:
>> 
>> I don't mind using emacs, vim, or any other text editor to make my pov
>> files but I still find one advantage in using (WINE) pov-win:  The
>> shortcut lists!  It is sooooo nice to be able to add (insert
>> object/texture/camera/etc. here) with only a couple of mouse clicks and
>> in most cases the inserted code includes commented-out options that I
>> otherwise might have completely forgotten about.
>> 
>> This is what I would most want in an "official gui" for pov-*nix.  A
>> mouse clickable interface with the full contents of the drop down lists
>> from the pov-win binaries.  And hey, the little preview images in 3.5
>> are sweet too, although not nearly as essential.
>> 
>> IS there a way to create something like this for emacs/vim/other?
> 
> I think it would be possible to add a menu (without the pictures
> probably) to the emacs pov-mode. Someone knowing a bit more about emacs
> lisp should be able to write it.
> 
> What i have meanwhile made is a transcript of the insert menu in form of
> a html file:
> 
> http://www.schunter.etc.tu-bs.de/~chris/imenu/insert_menu.html
> 
> (be careful, it's ~2.5 Mb with pictures)
> 
> Christoph
> 
WOW!  Thanks for sharing, Christoph!  That is VERY useful :)  Now with emacs (I
actually prefer vim!  Don't hate me! ;) ) and a browser I have all the
same functionality, if not the same ease of use.

Very much appreciated.

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On Sat, 27 Oct 2001 08:33:01 -0400, October wrote:
>In article <3b8abdcc@news.povray.org>, "Sebastian Holtermann"
><Van### [at] gmxde> wrote:
>
>> Will there be a GUI for XWindows in Povray 3.5? (Maybe Gtk/Qt/etc.)
>
>
>I don't mind using emacs, vim, or any other text editor to make my pov
>files but I still find one advantage in using (WINE) pov-win:  The
>shortcut lists!  It is sooooo nice to be able to add (insert
>object/texture/camera/etc. here) with only a couple of mouse clicks and
>in most cases the inserted code includes commented-out options that I
>otherwise might have completely forgotten about.
>
>This is what I would most want in an "official gui" for pov-*nix.  A
>mouse clickable interface with the full contents of the drop down lists
>from the pov-win binaries.  And hey, the little preview images in 3.5 are
>sweet too, although not nearly as essential.
>
>IS there a way to create something like this for emacs/vim/other?

I started doing this about a year or so ago, I actually had it working
but made some changes and never got back to putting it into a 
working state again.   Maybe I'll resume work on it and make it fit
for public use.  



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October wrote:
> 
> WOW!  Thanks for sharing, Christoph!  That is VERY useful :)  Now with emacs (I
> actually prefer vim!  Don't hate me! ;) ) and a browser I have all the
> same functionality, if not the same ease of use.

You can do that in Vim too (menu, abbreviations, etc.).
Nobody has done the work yet, though.

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> http://www.schunter.etc.tu-bs.de/~chris/imenu/insert_menu.html
>
> (be careful, it's ~2.5 Mb with pictures)

ye gods thats useful


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http://www.azweb.de/kpovmodeler/index.html

October wrote:

> In article <3b8abdcc@news.povray.org>, "Sebastian Holtermann"
> <Van### [at] gmxde> wrote:
> 
>> Will there be a GUI for XWindows in Povray 3.5? (Maybe Gtk/Qt/etc.)
> 
> 
> I don't mind using emacs, vim, or any other text editor to make my pov
> files but I still find one advantage in using (WINE) pov-win:  The
> shortcut lists!  It is sooooo nice to be able to add (insert
> object/texture/camera/etc. here) with only a couple of mouse clicks and
> in most cases the inserted code includes commented-out options that I
> otherwise might have completely forgotten about.
> 
> This is what I would most want in an "official gui" for pov-*nix.  A
> mouse clickable interface with the full contents of the drop down lists
> from the pov-win binaries.  And hey, the little preview images in 3.5 are
> sweet too, although not nearly as essential.
> 
> IS there a way to create something like this for emacs/vim/other?

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