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From: Wlodzimierz ABX Skiba
Subject: Re: I'm disappointed with speed of my sun compilation :-(
Date: 11 May 2001 08:11:56
Message: <3afbd70c@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote in message <3afbd377@news.povray.org>...
>  What does this command say in your system:
>
> psrinfo -v

it returns for both processors (No 1 and No 3) the same info:

Processor has been on-line since 05/10/01 9:23:20
The sparcv9 processor operates at 480 Mhz,
and has a sparcv9 floating point processor.


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#macro Sig(A,B,X)_(A,B)_(B,X)_(X,A)#end#macro _(A,B)cylinder{<A.x,A.y,3>,<B.u,
B.v,3>.1,9}#end global_settings{max_trace_level 9}light_source{0 1}camera{up y
*4right-3*x}blob{_(<3,1>,<1,-5>)_(<2,-2>,<4,-2>)Sig(x,<-1,1.5>,<1,3>)_(z-1,z-4
)pigment{rgb 1}}box{-3 3pigment{rgb 0}finish{reflection 1}hollow} // POV-Ray31


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From: Wlodzimierz ABX Skiba
Subject: Re: I'm disappointed with speed of my sun compilation :-(
Date: 11 May 2001 08:21:15
Message: <3afbd93b@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote in message <3afbd565@news.povray.org>...
> It took 1 minute 57 seconds to render in a Sun Ultra10 machine (which
> has a 440 MHz UltraSparc processor).


Thanks for this comparision
It takes 1 minute 34 seconds

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#macro Sig(A,B,X)_(A,B)_(B,X)_(X,A)#end#macro _(A,B)cylinder{<A.x,A.y,3>,<B.u,
B.v,3>.1,9}#end global_settings{max_trace_level 9}light_source{0 1}camera{up y
*4right-3*x}blob{_(<3,1>,<1,-5>)_(<2,-2>,<4,-2>)Sig(x,<-1,1.5>,<1,3>)_(z-1,z-4
)pigment{rgb 1}}box{-3 3pigment{rgb 0}finish{reflection 1}hollow} // POV-Ray31


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: I'm disappointed with speed of my sun compilation :-(
Date: 11 May 2001 08:27:07
Message: <3afbda9b@news.povray.org>
Wlodzimierz ABX Skiba <abx### [at] abxartpl> wrote:
: Thanks for this comparision
: It takes 1 minute 34 seconds

  Well, 480MHz and 1:34 seems quite normal to me.

-- 
#macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -


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From: Wlodzimierz ABX Skiba
Subject: Re: I'm disappointed with speed of my sun compilation :-(
Date: 11 May 2001 08:39:31
Message: <3afbdd83@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote in message <3afbda9b@news.povray.org>...
>Wlodzimierz ABX Skiba <abx### [at] abxartpl> wrote:
>: Thanks for this comparision
>: It takes 1 minute 34 seconds
>
>  Well, 480MHz and 1:34 seems quite normal to me.


well, now in the middle of the day I runned it on this compaq win nt
"middle of the day" is important becouse it runs working database for financial
company with many current tasks and it has one processor completly for povray
(for me :-) ) and it took only 57 seconds for your testing scene

little off-topic but I have to choose - this compaq or this sun for our company

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#macro Sig(A,B,X)_(A,B)_(B,X)_(X,A)#end#macro _(A,B)cylinder{<A.x,A.y,3>,<B.u,
B.v,3>.1,9}#end global_settings{max_trace_level 9}light_source{0 1}camera{up y
*4right-3*x}blob{_(<3,1>,<1,-5>)_(<2,-2>,<4,-2>)Sig(x,<-1,1.5>,<1,3>)_(z-1,z-4
)pigment{rgb 1}}box{-3 3pigment{rgb 0}finish{reflection 1}hollow} // POV-Ray31


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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: I'm disappointed with speed of my sun compilation :-(
Date: 13 May 2001 08:51:05
Message: <3afe8339@news.povray.org>
In article <3afbdd83@news.povray.org> , "Wlodzimierz ABX Skiba" 
<abx### [at] abxartpl> wrote:

> little off-topic but I have to choose - this compaq or this sun for our
company

You are comparing apples and bananas here.  Running POV-Ray fast tells you
little about any other application running on the system.  Besides,
databases (assuming that is what you need the server for) rarely need
floating-point units, and the Sun system you are using is designed as
server, not for scientific computing.  Run Oracle on both, and you will see
the speed difference you expect when comparing with maximum load (the Sun
system will likely be faster, or comparable).  And for servers you should
not look only at raw system speed of the initial configuration anyway...

    Thorsten

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e-mail: tho### [at] trfde

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: I'm disappointed with speed of my sun compilation :-(
Date: 13 May 2001 12:19:28
Message: <3afeb410@news.povray.org>
It's also important to remember that the Sun machine (IIRC) had two
processors, while povray was using just one, which gives a lower "score"
with the "povray test".
  A better test could have been running two instances of povray at the
same time :)

-- 
#macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -


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From: Tilly
Subject: Re: I'm disappointed with speed of my sun compilation :-(
Date: 17 May 2001 17:20:27
Message: <3b04409b@news.povray.org>
Hi,

I made a POVRAY-Benchmark on any SUN I found. And it is always slower than
an x86 based Computer. You can find the results at http://www.tabsnet.com/.
But that is only the floating point power of the CPU. I guess, a SUN is
still better for Database-Applications (I/O).

ps: I'm still searching for Benchmark-Resuls of other CPU's  than SUN or
x86. Every Result is very welcome.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: I'm disappointed with speed of my sun compilation :-(
Date: 18 May 2001 06:40:15
Message: <3b04fc0e@news.povray.org>
Tilly <web### [at] tabsnetde> wrote:
: I made a POVRAY-Benchmark on any SUN I found. And it is always slower than
: an x86 based Computer.

  Funny. This 333MHz UltraSparc renders faster than my old 350MHz P-II.
  So there must be something wrong with your tests.

-- 
#macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -


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From: Tilly
Subject: Re: I'm disappointed with speed of my sun compilation :-(
Date: 18 May 2001 11:20:08
Message: <3b053da8$1@news.povray.org>
>   Funny. This 333MHz UltraSparc renders faster than my old 350MHz P-II.
>   So there must be something wrong with your tests.
>

Do you compiled POVRAY with the Sun Forte C Compiler? I heard, this compiler
have a better optimization than gcc. I Compiled POVRAY with the default
Parameter of the make-File. So, if your Sun is so fast, send your Result
(include the Compiler-Version and -Parameter please).

Andreas Tillner
http://www.tabsnet.de/


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: I'm disappointed with speed of my sun compilation :-(
Date: 18 May 2001 11:36:39
Message: <3b054187@news.povray.org>
Tilly <web### [at] tabsnetde> wrote:
: Do you compiled POVRAY with the Sun Forte C Compiler? I heard, this compiler
: have a better optimization than gcc. I Compiled POVRAY with the default
: Parameter of the make-File. So, if your Sun is so fast, send your Result
: (include the Compiler-Version and -Parameter please).

  I usually use a gcc compile (with -O3 -ffast-math) but I have also tried
the cc compile (with -fast -xarch=v9). The latter is a bit faster than
the former (something like 5%), but the binary is almost twice as big
(that's why I use the gcc compile as I have a limited quota).

  I'm not saying that "my" Sun is "so fast". I'm just saying that it's
faster than a P-II 350MHz (which is quite good as this UltraSparc has
only a 333MHz processor).
  It would be quite unfair to compare it with an Athlon 1.2GHz as neither
the MHz amount nor the architecture are at the same level (this computer
is about 2 or 3 years old).

-- 
#macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -


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