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From: Edward Coffey
Subject: Why so slow?
Date: 25 Sep 1999 22:38:57
Message: <37ed8741@news.povray.org>
OK, so I'm pretty new to all this Linux jazz - but why is my newly-compiled
X-POV so very much slower than POV-Win?  I compiled it with the
optimisations appropriate for my machine, what can I do to make it faster?
(Machine: Pentium-Pro 200MHz, 32Mb ram, RedHat Linux 6.0)


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From: Jon A  Cruz
Subject: Re: Why so slow?
Date: 26 Sep 1999 03:14:01
Message: <37EDC7DF.7FACEEA0@geocities.com>
Edward Coffey wrote:

> OK, so I'm pretty new to all this Linux jazz - but why is my newly-compiled
> X-POV so very much slower than POV-Win?  I compiled it with the
> optimisations appropriate for my machine, what can I do to make it faster?
> (Machine: Pentium-Pro 200MHz, 32Mb ram, RedHat Linux 6.0)

Strange. I haven't a clue. But just to let you know, I built the Linux version
from source and it was running on par with my windows version. I'm just a
happy ol' Linux user. You might need some feedback from gurus. Could be
memory, file system, libraries, etc. For example, my computer has a
Proimise-66 ultra DMA controller, but the drivers I'm running on under Linux
are only tweaked for ultra-33 performance.

Once you get a few hints from the gurus out there, I'll try them myself. :-)

--
"My new computer's got the clocks, it rocks
But it was obsolete before I opened the box" - W.A.Y.


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From: Marc Schimmler
Subject: Re: Why so slow?
Date: 26 Sep 1999 05:58:55
Message: <37EDEE5E.C7BEE4B@ica.uni-stuttgart.de>
Edward Coffey wrote:
> 
> OK, so I'm pretty new to all this Linux jazz - but why is my newly-compiled
> X-POV so very much slower than POV-Win?  I compiled it with the
> optimisations appropriate for my machine, what can I do to make it faster?
> (Machine: Pentium-Pro 200MHz, 32Mb ram, RedHat Linux 6.0)

I remember I read somewhere here that the Windows compiler had some
extra optimizations for the Pentium II that the current LINUX compilers
don't have. These differences are not true for my Pentium 90.

Marc

-- 
Marc Schimmler


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From: Peter Popov
Subject: Re: Why so slow?
Date: 26 Sep 1999 08:09:12
Message: <tevtN4sh7hdqbcbodjBfd7bIKQxz@4ax.com>
On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 12:33:09 +1000, "Edward Coffey"
<e.c### [at] ugradunimelbeduau> wrote:

>OK, so I'm pretty new to all this Linux jazz - but why is my newly-compiled
>X-POV so very much slower than POV-Win?  I compiled it with the
>optimisations appropriate for my machine, what can I do to make it faster?
>(Machine: Pentium-Pro 200MHz, 32Mb ram, RedHat Linux 6.0)

My brother is responsible for keeping the Linux box at home in shape,
I only use it from time to time (for renders with a long parse time),
so this might seem a stupid question, but still -- have you stopped
all unnecessary processes and servers? From what I know the default
RedHat installations (which most new users prefer) sets up a lot of
services that you might not need on a rendering box. Might be worth
checking out.


Peter Popov
ICQ: 15002700


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From: Mark Gordon
Subject: Re: Why so slow?
Date: 26 Sep 1999 14:34:48
Message: <37EE67D1.A139D872@mailbag.com>
Edward Coffey wrote:
> 
> OK, so I'm pretty new to all this Linux jazz - but why is my newly-compiled
> X-POV so very much slower than POV-Win?  I compiled it with the
> optimisations appropriate for my machine, what can I do to make it faster?
> (Machine: Pentium-Pro 200MHz, 32Mb ram, RedHat Linux 6.0)

I've made the same observation.  My guess is that gcc doesn't optimize
for Pentium II as well as MSVC++ does.  POV-Win experienced a big
performance jump in moving from Watcom to MSVC++.

-Mark Gordon


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From: Ken Matassa
Subject: Re: Why so slow?
Date: 26 Sep 1999 17:40:52
Message: <37EE93F5.55F0@pacbell.net>
Jon A. Cruz wrote:
...snip...

>... For example, my computer has a Proimise-66 ultra DMA controller, but the drivers
I'm running on under Linux are only tweaked for ultra-33 performance.

...snip...

I was under the impression that Linux didn't support the ultra-66
standard. Is it working because of the way you have your drives
configured or what?

Ken Matassa


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From: Jean Montambeault
Subject: Re: Why so slow?
Date: 26 Sep 1999 18:42:53
Message: <37EEA16C.4DE02E4D@videotron.ca>
Mark Gordon wrote:
> 
> Edward Coffey wrote:
> >
> > OK, so I'm pretty new to all this Linux jazz - but why is my newly-compiled
> > X-POV so very much slower than POV-Win?  I compiled it with the
> > optimisations appropriate for my machine, what can I do to make it faster?
> > (Machine: Pentium-Pro 200MHz, 32Mb ram, RedHat Linux 6.0)
> 
> I've made the same observation.  My guess is that gcc doesn't optimize
> for Pentium II as well as MSVC++ does.  POV-Win experienced a big
> performance jump in moving from Watcom to MSVC++.
> 
> -Mark Gordon

	For what it's worth, I can render the skyvase.pov benchmark in 1
min 43 seconds under Windows 98 and 1 min 30 under X-window
(WindowMaker, kernel 2.0.36 from an installation by Redhat 5.2). Now
there's no need for swapping here (128 Mbytes RAM). 
	There's a real neat little program named "top" on my computer that
can be called from any console or x-term : it will tell you
everything you need to know about the action going on at your
system. It's on mine from birth but probably exist in some RPM
depot. Try it : do "h" to list the option. "P" (capitalized) sort
the processes by % of cpu usage.

	Good luck.

	Jean M.


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From: Mark Gordon
Subject: Re: Why so slow?
Date: 26 Sep 1999 19:02:45
Message: <37EEA69F.5F004EB7@mailbag.com>
Jean Montambeault wrote:
> 
>         For what it's worth, I can render the skyvase.pov benchmark in 1
> min 43 seconds under Windows 98 and 1 min 30 under X-window
> (WindowMaker, kernel 2.0.36 from an installation by Redhat 5.2). Now
> there's no need for swapping here (128 Mbytes RAM).
>         There's a real neat little program named "top" on my computer that
> can be called from any console or x-term : it will tell you
> everything you need to know about the action going on at your
> system. It's on mine from birth but probably exist in some RPM
> depot. Try it : do "h" to list the option. "P" (capitalized) sort
> the processes by % of cpu usage.

Yes, I'm quite familiar with top.

-Mark Gordon


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Why so slow?
Date: 26 Sep 1999 19:17:16
Message: <37EEA921.924F8EC8@pacbell.net>
Mark Gordon wrote:
> 
> Edward Coffey wrote:
> >
> > OK, so I'm pretty new to all this Linux jazz - but why is my newly-compiled
> > X-POV so very much slower than POV-Win?  I compiled it with the
> > optimisations appropriate for my machine, what can I do to make it faster?
> > (Machine: Pentium-Pro 200MHz, 32Mb ram, RedHat Linux 6.0)
> 
> I've made the same observation.  My guess is that gcc doesn't optimize
> for Pentium II as well as MSVC++ does.  POV-Win experienced a big
> performance jump in moving from Watcom to MSVC++.
> 
> -Mark Gordon

POV-Win experienced a performance increase between the two but I wouldn't
call it a "big" jump. Version differences in POV-Ray itself had a greater
impact than the compiler did. See my report in povray-FAQ group :)

-- 
Ken Tyler
1100+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html


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From: Mark Gordon
Subject: Re: Why so slow?
Date: 26 Sep 1999 21:00:09
Message: <37EEC222.78A94A7A@mailbag.com>
Ken wrote:
> 
> POV-Win experienced a performance increase between the two but I wouldn't
> call it a "big" jump. Version differences in POV-Ray itself had a greater
> impact than the compiler did. See my report in povray-FAQ group :)

It was big enough to allow POV-Win to leapfrog over povray on Linux on
identical Pentium-II hardware.  I rendered skyvase.pov (I forget the
exact settings) with 3.1d on WinNT in 349 seconds and povray 3.1e on
Linux in 388 seconds.  I don't have figures for how 3.02 performed.

-Mark Gordon


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