On 08 Sep 1998 09:24:22 +0900, mas### [at] acratrcojp (Roland Mas) wrote:

>  To make it short, I surely could make the interface portable between
>languages, but only its look, because what happens when you click here or
>there is no part of it.

Ah.  If that's all it is, then I suspect that a new GUI frontend
wouldn't be an issue.  The only issue is if you actually add
functionality to POV-Ray to make it easier for your frontend to
interface.  

Though I think that if you look, you'll find lots of GUI frontends
already for POV-Ray.  Perhaps even some written in Tcl/Tk.

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par### [at] mailfwicom (Ronald L. Parker) writes:

> Though I think that if you look, you'll find lots of GUI frontends
> already for POV-Ray.  Perhaps even some written in Tcl/Tk.

  Oh, I probably would, sure. But where's the fun?

Roland.
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par### [at] mailfwicom (Ronald L. Parker) writes:

> Though I think that if you look, you'll find lots of GUI frontends
> already for POV-Ray.  Perhaps even some written in Tcl/Tk.

  Oh, I probably would, sure. Altavista gave me at least this:
<URL:http://www.pjbcn.demon.co.uk/povtcl.htm>. But where's the fun?

  And anyway, I'd like to make a complete interface like the one under
Windows, maybe swallowing an Emacs windows (in order to include the
Greatest Editor Ever). Python exist on many platforms, so do Tk and
Emacs. Even the intersection of these includes at least Windows (3, 4, 5),
Mac, OS/2 and (of course) Unix. Probably more. So...

Roland.
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English speakers call me Rowlannd' Mass,
Nihongode hanasu hitoha [Lolando Masu] to iimasu.
Choisissez ! Take your pick ! Erande kudasai !

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On 08 Sep 1998 09:55:07 +0900, mas### [at] acratrcojp (Roland Mas) wrote:

>par### [at] mailfwicom (Ronald L. Parker) writes:
>
>> Though I think that if you look, you'll find lots of GUI frontends
>> already for POV-Ray.  Perhaps even some written in Tcl/Tk.
>
>  Oh, I probably would, sure. Altavista gave me at least this:
><URL:http://www.pjbcn.demon.co.uk/povtcl.htm>. But where's the fun?
>
>  And anyway, I'd like to make a complete interface like the one under
>Windows, maybe swallowing an Emacs windows (in order to include the
>Greatest Editor Ever). Python exist on many platforms, so do Tk and
>Emacs. Even the intersection of these includes at least Windows (3, 4, 5),
>Mac, OS/2 and (of course) Unix. Probably more. So...
>
>Roland.
>-- 

I don't want to start a long sub-thread about this, but what is so
great about the practically lengendary "Emacs" editor I keep hearing
agout? I tried a DOS port of it a long time ago, and found it very
large and cumbersome to use. Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not
trying to start a fight. I simply want to know what is the beauty of
Emacs that I overlooked? So many satisfied users must know something
about the program that I don't.   :)

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Xno### [at] ezwvcom (G. Berry) writes:

> I don't want to start a long sub-thread about this, but what is so
> great about the practically lengendary "Emacs" editor I keep hearing
> agout? I tried a DOS port of it a long time ago, and found it very
> large and cumbersome to use. Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not
> trying to start a fight. I simply want to know what is the beauty of
> Emacs that I overlooked? So many satisfied users must know something
> about the program that I don't.   :)

  Well... it's big. It's powerful. It's highly customizable and
programmable (in Emacs Lisp). It can do almost anything (it is said that
the only thing it cannot do is make coffee for you): edit files, read mail,
read news, browse the web, display a calendar (with holidays), play games,
access FTP sites just like local directories, edit directories, etc. But
the most relevant characteristics (in the case of POV-Ray in particular and
programming in general) is syntax highlighting, automatic completion,
syntax checking, and calling of external programs (like make or
x-povray). You can do everything from your Emacs, edit your file, launch
POV-Ray, transfer the image on your web page via FTP...

  But, it's big. It's really big. It often uses several megabytes of
memory. And it's sometimes slow (it's interpreted Lisp, even if somewhat
byte-compiled). And its key combinations (shortcuts) sometimes seem really
cryptic to Windows user (ctrl-x ctrl-s for saving a file is not really the
Windows standard, nor is it the Mac one - it tends to be the Unix one,
though).

  Well. I personnally love Emacs, but I can see its drawbacks. I never saw
a better file editor (except vi in the case of very small files you want to
load fast), though.

Roland.

[Followup-To: junk, here is not the place to discuss these things.]

R.
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Les francophones m'appellent Roland Mas,
English speakers call me Rowlannd' Mass,
Nihongode hanasu hitoha [Lolando Masu] to iimasu.
Choisissez ! Take your pick ! Erande kudasai !

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