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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: two years of SARS-Cov-2
Date: 2 Feb 2022 10:46:42
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Op 2-2-2022 om 16:22 schreef jr:
> hi,
> 
> it's been about two years now since "the pandemic" has taken hold, claiming as
> of today, according to Wikipedia, a little under 5.7M lives in total.  on
> average (globally) alcohol claims one life every 10 seconds, approx ~3.1M per
> year.  in other words, don't drink, get corona -- it's safer!  :-)
> 

I read in Nature iirc, that there is a huge uncertainty about those 
figures, 5.7M being the "official" one. Learned estimated report up to 
some 20M... so... cheers!  :-)

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Thomas


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From: Cousin Ricky
Subject: Re: two years of SARS-Cov-2
Date: 2 Feb 2022 12:03:12
Message: <61fab950@news.povray.org>
On 2022-02-02 11:22 (-4), jr wrote:
> 
> it's been about two years now since "the pandemic" has taken hold, claiming as
> of today, according to Wikipedia, a little under 5.7M lives in total.  on
> average (globally) alcohol claims one life every 10 seconds, approx ~3.1M per
> year.  in other words, don't drink, get corona -- it's safer!  :-)

The difference is that alcoholism isn't contagious.  Also, alcoholics
aren't clogging hospitals beyond capacity.

And isn't Corona a form of alcohol?


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From: jr
Subject: Re: two years of SARS-Cov-2
Date: 3 Feb 2022 09:30:00
Message: <web.61fbe5c1f0d21ef3ea8869266cde94f1@news.povray.org>
hi,

Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> I read in Nature iirc, that there is a huge uncertainty about those
> figures, 5.7M being the "official" one. Learned estimated report up to
> some 20M... so... cheers!  :-)

I guess you're right, may be not under-reported by quite such a margin, but yes.
 and I suspect the the alcohol numbers to be what the alcohol lobby can agree
on.



Cousin Ricky wrote:
> The difference is that alcoholism isn't contagious.  Also, alcoholics
> aren't clogging hospitals beyond capacity.

still, speak to people on A&E, a fair percentage of cases involve alcohol (lucky
alcohol, by definition, is not a drug :-)).  and anyway, food for thought, more
than 75% of all (UK) reported domestic violence cite alcohol as a (significant)
contributing factor.


regards, jr.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: two years of SARS-Cov-2
Date: 5 Feb 2022 14:53:12
Message: <pan$c17b2$2457d4b4$6f2c0c54$6a844ca2@nospam.com>
On Wed, 02 Feb 2022 10:22:22 -0500, jr wrote:

> hi,
> 
> it's been about two years now since "the pandemic" has taken hold,
> claiming as of today, according to Wikipedia, a little under 5.7M lives
> in total.  on average (globally) alcohol claims one life every 10
> seconds, approx ~3.1M per year.  in other words, don't drink, get corona
> -- it's safer!  :-)
> 
> 
> jr.

It ain't just about the deaths.  I know people who "recovered" but are 
dealing with long-term serious effects from it.  "long corona" is no joke.

-- 
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: HKarsten
Subject: Re: two years of SARS-Cov-2
Date: 6 Feb 2022 09:45:00
Message: <web.61ffddfaf0d21ef3c8b76ad4ad2d5cff@news.povray.org>
> And isn't Corona a form of alcohol?

Just viral marketing..


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From: jr
Subject: Re: two years of SARS-Cov-2
Date: 6 Feb 2022 11:30:00
Message: <web.61fff6e2f0d21ef3ea8869266cde94f1@news.povray.org>
hi,

"HKarsten" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> > And isn't Corona a form of alcohol?
>
> Just viral marketing..

</grin>


@Jim Henderson
> It ain't just about the deaths.  I know people who "recovered" but are
> dealing with long-term serious effects from it.  "long corona" is no joke.

sure.  curious though how people will tell that they suffer from "long Covid"
(as it's called this side of the pond), but not that last night they were drunk
and hit their spouse.


regards, jr.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: two years of SARS-Cov-2
Date: 7 Feb 2022 02:16:37
Message: <6200c755@news.povray.org>
Op 06/02/2022 om 15:40 schreef HKarsten:
>> And isn't Corona a form of alcohol?
> 
> Just viral marketing..
> 

It is/was a cigar. ;-)

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Thomas


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From: Kenneth
Subject: Re: two years of SARS-Cov-2
Date: 7 Feb 2022 13:30:00
Message: <web.620163c0f0d21ef34cef624e6e066e29@news.povray.org>
I play the guitar in a 4-piece rock-and-roll band (at my advanced age!), and we
all have different thoughts about the efficacy of the vaccines, the seriousness
of the Covid pandemic, etc. I am the most 'careful' guy in the band, without
doubt.

Here's a breakdown of our vaccination status:

Me: two vaccine doses plus booster

piano player: two vaccine doses but no booster yet (AFAIK)

bass guitarist (the youngest of us): no vaccine

drummer: no vaccine; instead of that, he has been taking an 'alt' therapy since
the middle of 2021 of ivermectin, zinc, vitamin C, and some other herb(?) that I
don't know the name of.
----
And here are the results over the last year-plus:

Me: no Covid that I know of, so far

piano player: has had Covid twice; bad reactions both times; the 2nd was after
he was vaccinated

bass guitarist: has had Covid once; his wife never caught it. A relatively mild
reaction for both.

drummer: has had Covid twice; the 2nd time was worse than the 1st. His wife also
caught it the 1st time, but then got vaccinated plus boosted, and did not catch
it the 2nd time. Our drummer still insists that his ivermectin regimen is
protecting him. I will not comment ;-)

Aside from the protective effect of the vaccines, there is probably sheer luck
involved, plus genetics; my Dad lived to be 96, and rarely got sick from
anything, which is amazing. Our piano player has some immune-system problems,
which certainly does not help him ward off diseases. As for me, I am not around
very many people at all (except when our band plays)-- certainly far less people
that the other band members.


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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: two years of SARS-Cov-2
Date: 7 Feb 2022 20:13:18
Message: <6201c3ae$1@news.povray.org>

> Aside from the protective effect of the vaccines, there is probably sheer luck
> involved, plus genetics; my Dad lived to be 96, and rarely got sick from
> anything, which is amazing. Our piano player has some immune-system problems,
> which certainly does not help him ward off diseases. As for me, I am not around
> very many people at all (except when our band plays)-- certainly far less people
> that the other band members.
>

They are starting to wonder why some people who are otherwise swimming 
in the virus do not catch the disease.  Either they lack one of the 
necessary enzymes/proteins/midichlorians required for the virus to 
replicate itself, or they have a super immune system that is no match 
for the virus, so genetics do indeed play a part.

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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: two years of SARS-Cov-2
Date: 8 Feb 2022 11:53:51
Message: <pan$b8447$a9bc836a$d4c46358$fce75c94@nospam.com>
On Sun, 06 Feb 2022 11:27:14 -0500, jr wrote:

> @Jim Henderson
>> It ain't just about the deaths.  I know people who "recovered" but are
>> dealing with long-term serious effects from it.  "long corona" is no
>> joke.
> 
> sure.  curious though how people will tell that they suffer from "long
> Covid" (as it's called this side of the pond), but not that last night
> they were drunk and hit their spouse.

Pretty easy for some - not everybody drinks.

I have a coworker who has long corona.  The persistent headache is one of 
the worst side effects for them - 3 weeks of non-stop pain that nothing 
short of a high-dose prescription painkiller will touch.

And those who get drunk and hit their spouse belong in jail.  Conflating 
the two (an illness and domestic abuse)?  Just makes me go "WTF?".



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"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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