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From: Bald Eagle
Subject: Tartan
Date: 1 Dec 2017 14:15:00
Message: <web.5a21aa1ec6ad0b9dc437ac910@news.povray.org>
Perhaps Mr. McAvoy can 'splain some of the intricacies of the tartan.

https://www.scotweb.co.uk/tartan/Walker/23473
has 4 different color patterns - all for the same family / clan.
This suggests that there's no "system" to the colors and patterns - at least at
first glance, to my ignorant eye.
But I'm sure there's lots more to it than that.

The evening tartan seems to bear some passing resemblance to the cookie company
packaging -
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71AV7F37W0L._SL1000_.jpg

(aside - the shortbread butter cookies [meh] seem to have edged the stem ginger
cookies [yum!] off the shelves - at least at the stores around me in the US  :(
)


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Tartan
Date: 1 Dec 2017 14:54:47
Message: <5a21b387$1@news.povray.org>
On 01/12/2017 19:14, Bald Eagle wrote:
> Perhaps Mr. McAvoy can 'splain some of the intricacies of the tartan.
> 
> https://www.scotweb.co.uk/tartan/Walker/23473
> has 4 different color patterns - all for the same family / clan.
> This suggests that there's no "system" to the colors and patterns - at least at
> first glance, to my ignorant eye.
> But I'm sure there's lots more to it than that.
> 

No, not a lot.
Most people seem to think that the wearing of the tartan is restricted 
to only wearing the tartan of your own clan. But that is a modern 
concept, probably started by Walter Scott as he brown nosed up to George 
IV. People wore whatever took their fancy and to the depth of their pocket.
Hunting tartan which is generally of a darkish green hue. For a bit 
better camouflage. Dress tartan is show offish and generally bright. The 
other two were probably commercialised. To make the point. The actor 
James McAvoy has commissioned his own McAvoy tartan which is a hoot as 
McAvoy is an Irish name not a Scottish one. The Irish kilt and bagpipe 
covering are plain cloth.
It is a lot of hype but don't tell anyone I said that. Shush! ;-)

> The evening tartan seems to bear some passing resemblance to the cookie company
> packaging -
> https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71AV7F37W0L._SL1000_.jpg
> 

Well it would be, it is an advertising ploy. Hoots man, Ye widnie expect 
anything else. There's money involved.

> (aside - the shortbread butter cookies [meh] 

Anything that is called a cookie is by definition meh. ;-)


> seem to have edged the stem ginger
> cookies [yum!] 

Yum? don't you mean Yum, yum? :-)

> off the shelves - at least at the stores around me in the US  :(
> )
> 

Real shortbread is heart attack material par excellence. So rich they 
make you want to reach for a joint. ;-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM1MftCtIlg

:-P

Sorry jr for spamming you. :-)

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     Stephen


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From: Bald Eagle
Subject: Re: Tartan
Date: 1 Dec 2017 15:55:01
Message: <web.5a21c0c7e44026ffc437ac910@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:

> No, not a lot.
> Most people seem to think that the wearing of the tartan is restricted
> to only wearing the tartan of your own clan. But that is a modern
> concept, probably started by Walter Scott as he brown nosed up to George
> IV. People wore whatever took their fancy and to the depth of their pocket.

Good to know.
Next thing I know, you'll be telling me that Scotch tape wasn't invented to mend
broken liquor bottles...
How's this for modern:
http://www.tactikilt.com/

> The actor
> James McAvoy has commissioned his own McAvoy tartan which is a hoot as
> McAvoy is an Irish name not a Scottish one. The Irish kilt and bagpipe
> covering are plain cloth.
> It is a lot of hype but don't tell anyone I said that. Shush! ;-)

So, it's like the converse of this:
https://www.aol.com/article/finance/2017/03/13/mcdonalds-slammed-for-their-shamrock-shake-advertisement/21880853/

> > The evening tartan seems to bear some passing resemblance to the cookie company
> > packaging -

> Well it would be, it is an advertising ploy. Hoots man, Ye widnie expect
> anything else. There's money involved.

So true.
You'd think were California politicians or something.


> Anything that is called a cookie is by definition meh. ;-)

You clearly haven't seen the C is for cookie meme...

>
> > seem to have edged the stem ginger
> > cookies [yum!]
>
> Yum? don't you mean Yum, yum? :-)

Yum yum yum, in the non-Unix sense.  :D


> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM1MftCtIlg

Good grief, that takes me back - to like 1976 or so...
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Dr-Hook-Rock-Pop-Music-Photo-Trading-Cards-Stickers-Match-Box-Label-Lot-of-4/263258695377?hash=
item3d4b70e6d1:g:U8AAAOSwhOdXpT1O

:O


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From: dick balaska
Subject: Re: Tartan
Date: 1 Dec 2017 16:50:39
Message: <5a21ceaf$1@news.povray.org>
On 12/01/2017 02:54 PM, Stephen wrote:

> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM1MftCtIlg

Huh, I didn't know the Beeb ever allowed actual music, only lip-syncing.

dik


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Tartan
Date: 1 Dec 2017 17:12:34
Message: <5a21d3d2$1@news.povray.org>
On 01/12/2017 21:50, dick balaska wrote:
> On 12/01/2017 02:54 PM, Stephen wrote:
> 
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM1MftCtIlg
> 
> Huh, I didn't know the Beeb ever allowed actual music, only lip-syncing.
> 
> dik

That was certainly true for TOTP
Shows like The OGWT were recorded live.

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     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Tartan
Date: 1 Dec 2017 17:31:08
Message: <5a21d82c$1@news.povray.org>
On 01/12/2017 20:51, Bald Eagle wrote:
> Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> 
>> No, not a lot.
>> Most people seem to think that the wearing of the tartan is restricted
>> to only wearing the tartan of your own clan. But that is a modern
>> concept, probably started by Walter Scott as he brown nosed up to George
>> IV. People wore whatever took their fancy and to the depth of their pocket.
> 
> Good to know.
> Next thing I know, you'll be telling me that Scotch tape wasn't invented to mend
> broken liquor bottles...

LOL Scotch tape was invented to mend faces after they were glassed by 
said broken liquor bottles.
Have you heard of the Glasgow coma scale?

> How's this for modern:
> http://www.tactikilt.com/
> 

GTF ;)


>> The actor
>> James McAvoy has commissioned his own McAvoy tartan which is a hoot as
>> McAvoy is an Irish name not a Scottish one. The Irish kilt and bagpipe
>> covering are plain cloth.
>> It is a lot of hype but don't tell anyone I said that. Shush! ;-)
> 
> So, it's like the converse of this:
>
https://www.aol.com/article/finance/2017/03/13/mcdonalds-slammed-for-their-shamrock-shake-advertisement/21880853/
> 

Well Stonehenge is certainly Very English. The pipes shown look like war 
pipes or the great highland bagpipes. The Irish form has only two drones 
IIRC. The Uillean pipes are more associated with Ireland.

>>> The evening tartan seems to bear some passing resemblance to the cookie company
>>> packaging -
> 
>> Well it would be, it is an advertising ploy. Hoots man, Ye widnie expect
>> anything else. There's money involved.
> 
> So true.
> You'd think were California politicians or something.
> 
> 

Have a guess where Californian politicians came from. ;)
Also guess where rednecks came from.

>> Anything that is called a cookie is by definition meh. ;-)
> 
> You clearly haven't seen the C is for cookie meme...
> 
True and next on the play list...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHnxOJlvdwU


>>
>>> seem to have edged the stem ginger
>>> cookies [yum!]
>>
>> Yum? don't you mean Yum, yum? :-)
> 
> Yum yum yum, in the non-Unix sense.  :D
> 

Sorry for this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnCAj6ssJj8

> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM1MftCtIlg
> 
> Good grief, that takes me back - to like 1976 or so...
>
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Dr-Hook-Rock-Pop-Music-Photo-Trading-Cards-Stickers-Match-Box-Label-Lot-of-4/263258695377?hash=
> item3d4b70e6d1:g:U8AAAOSwhOdXpT1O
> 

I can't take that seriously. I liked Dr Hook back in the day. :)



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     Stephen


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Tartan
Date: 2 Dec 2017 00:16:14
Message: <5a22371e$1@news.povray.org>
Am 01.12.2017 um 23:31 schrieb Stephen:

> Sorry for this.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnCAj6ssJj8

Apologies NOT accepted.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Tartan
Date: 2 Dec 2017 02:46:54
Message: <5a225a6e$1@news.povray.org>
On 02/12/2017 05:16, clipka wrote:
> Am 01.12.2017 um 23:31 schrieb Stephen:
> 
>> Sorry for this.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnCAj6ssJj8
> 
> Apologies NOT accepted.
> 

[See And I am really not a nice person. ;) ]

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     Stephen


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