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>> No, never a French one, but I had plenty of Japanese ones at my last
>> job. They seem to work fine (apart from using the Yen symbol instead of
>> the backslash symbol for directory separators) until you press the right
>> (wrong) key combination which switches you into Japanese text entry.
>> Still, you can make it look like you are good at typing Japanese by just
>> punching random keys continuously :-)
>>
>>
>
> Who is the Japanese equivalent of Shakespeare? :-)
I didn't have *that* much time!
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On 8/4/2015 1:18 PM, scott wrote:
>>> No, never a French one, but I had plenty of Japanese ones at my last
>>> job. They seem to work fine (apart from using the Yen symbol instead of
>>> the backslash symbol for directory separators) until you press the right
>>> (wrong) key combination which switches you into Japanese text entry.
>>> Still, you can make it look like you are good at typing Japanese by just
>>> punching random keys continuously :-)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Who is the Japanese equivalent of Shakespeare? :-)
>
> I didn't have *that* much time!
>
>
:-)
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Stephen
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On 8/2/2015 6:13 PM, clipka wrote:
> Am 02.08.2015 um 14:30 schrieb Stephen:
>
>> When I used to work for a living. It was fun working on a machine that
>> had lost its CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT
>> The keyboard would revert to US settings but the letters didn't. ;-)
>> Remembering where the backslash, at sign and inverted comma keys were,
>> was a pain.
>
> Tell me about it. The German keyboard layout shares exactly five(!)
> punctuation character locations with the US one, AND has two letter keys
> swapped.
>
> I never bothered to try and remember the US locatin of characters. All I
> cared about was that typing "kezb gr" (sic!) would usually fix the mess.
>
Nor me. Fortunately my fingers are not directly connected to my brain.
They did it themselves. Ask me and I can't tell you but put me in front
of a k/board and it happens. :-)
>
> And then there was the keyboard of my first own PC. One of the things I
> did pretty early after unboxing was to install some Norton Commander
> clone which, as you may recall, made heavy use of the function keys as
> hotkeys for important stuff; I knew most of them by heart.
>
That passed me by. Norton became a resource hog and I stopped using it
early on.
> So a moment later I was sitting in front of the thing with a puzzled
> expression on my face, struggling to find the F7 key.
>
> "Okay, let's do this systematically," I thought, and went through the
> function key row: "Here's F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, F6, F5, F8... Wait, *WHAT?!*"
>
>
LOL. that I can appreciate. :-)
> The good news was that yes, the second F5 key behaved exactly like the
> good old F7 key. Phew! :)
>
Oh! I wonder how that could happen. :-)
> Also, the keyboard was a genuine Cherry keyboard (albeit branded
> differently by the OEM) with easily removable keycaps, so a letter to
> the OEM and a few days later I was able to swap the keycap for a
> properly labeled one.
>
A good ending. :-)
> I think I still have the F5 keycap somewhere.
>
On a chain around your neck? ;-)
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Stephen
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Am 04.08.2015 um 22:32 schrieb Stephen:
>> And then there was the keyboard of my first own PC. One of the things I
>> did pretty early after unboxing was to install some Norton Commander
>> clone which, as you may recall, made heavy use of the function keys as
>> hotkeys for important stuff; I knew most of them by heart.
>
> That passed me by. Norton became a resource hog and I stopped using it
> early on.
You should have tried Volkov Commander. Same functionality as NC plus
some more, yet still magnitudes smaller. Good old Russian assembler
coding. I made sure to put it on all my boot disks.
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> On 8/2/2015 6:13 PM, clipka wrote:
> > The good news was that yes, the second F5 key behaved exactly like the
> > good old F7 key. Phew! :)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Not [F7] !!!!! It's a trap!
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On 8/4/2015 10:05 PM, clipka wrote:
> Am 04.08.2015 um 22:32 schrieb Stephen:
>
>>> And then there was the keyboard of my first own PC. One of the things I
>>> did pretty early after unboxing was to install some Norton Commander
>>> clone which, as you may recall, made heavy use of the function keys as
>>> hotkeys for important stuff; I knew most of them by heart.
>>
>> That passed me by. Norton became a resource hog and I stopped using it
>> early on.
>
> You should have tried Volkov Commander. Same functionality as NC plus
> some more, yet still magnitudes smaller. Good old Russian assembler
> coding. I made sure to put it on all my boot disks.
>
I've used AVG for years and when that started to slow down my machine. I
swapped to MS Essentials.
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Stephen
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Am 05.08.2015 um 11:29 schrieb Stephen:
> On 8/4/2015 10:05 PM, clipka wrote:
>> Am 04.08.2015 um 22:32 schrieb Stephen:
>>
>>>> And then there was the keyboard of my first own PC. One of the things I
>>>> did pretty early after unboxing was to install some Norton Commander
>>>> clone which, as you may recall, made heavy use of the function keys as
>>>> hotkeys for important stuff; I knew most of them by heart.
>>>
>>> That passed me by. Norton became a resource hog and I stopped using it
>>> early on.
>>
>> You should have tried Volkov Commander. Same functionality as NC plus
>> some more, yet still magnitudes smaller. Good old Russian assembler
>> coding. I made sure to put it on all my boot disks.
>>
> I've used AVG for years and when that started to slow down my machine. I
> swapped to MS Essentials.
Wait... you're talking about anti-virus software, right?
That's not what Norton Commander was.
NC was a file manager for good old DOS, which allowed scrollable
side-by-side viewing of two directories, copying stuff between both
sides, and doing other fancy stuff, while at the same time always giving
you a command prompt; it also came with integrated text and hex editors
(or at least that's how I remember it; the hex editor might have been a
Volkov Commander extension).
Total Commander still keeps up the tradition of Norton Commander clones.
Norton Commander was part of a package called Norton Utilities, which
also included tools for disk defragmenting, data rescue (Norton Disk
Doctor), and some such.
IIRC Norton Antivirus was a later invention.
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On 8/5/2015 5:46 PM, clipka wrote:
> Wait... you're talking about anti-virus software, right?
>
> That's not what Norton Commander was.
>
> NC was a file manager for good old DOS, which allowed scrollable
> side-by-side viewing of two directories, copying stuff between both
> sides, and doing other fancy stuff, while at the same time always giving
> you a command prompt; it also came with integrated text and hex editors
> (or at least that's how I remember it; the hex editor might have been a
> Volkov Commander extension).
>
> Total Commander still keeps up the tradition of Norton Commander clones.
>
> Norton Commander was part of a package called Norton Utilities, which
> also included tools for disk defragmenting, data rescue (Norton Disk
> Doctor), and some such.
>
> IIRC Norton Antivirus was a later invention.
>
Your right I was thinking about Norton Antivirus.
And what a coincidence. Yesterday I downloaded the evaluation version of
Total Commander.
As I said to another Cmdr. It reminds me of Windows 1.0
It also hangs when I try to look at my network. I don't have the time to
look at it just now. I am getting ready for a big appointment next week.
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Stephen
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Am 05.08.2015 um 19:17 schrieb Stephen:
> And what a coincidence. Yesterday I downloaded the evaluation version of
> Total Commander.
> As I said to another Cmdr. It reminds me of Windows 1.0
> It also hangs when I try to look at my network. I don't have the time to
> look at it just now. I am getting ready for a big appointment next week.
Depending on what you intend to do with it, you might want to have a
look at BeyondCompare. If you need to compare or synchronize two
folders, BC is all the tool you'll ever need. (And if you need to
compare file contents, you get that for free on top ;))
It also does a tremendously good job at moving or copying huge numbers
of files (or large files) from A to B, and plays pretty nice with
network folders. (It even supports FTP.)
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On 8/5/2015 7:04 PM, clipka wrote:
> Am 05.08.2015 um 19:17 schrieb Stephen:
>
>> And what a coincidence. Yesterday I downloaded the evaluation version of
>> Total Commander.
>> As I said to another Cmdr. It reminds me of Windows 1.0
>> It also hangs when I try to look at my network. I don't have the time to
>> look at it just now. I am getting ready for a big appointment next week.
>
> Depending on what you intend to do with it, you might want to have a
> look at BeyondCompare. If you need to compare or synchronize two
> folders, BC is all the tool you'll ever need. (And if you need to
> compare file contents, you get that for free on top ;))
>
I don't intend to do anything with it. It was a recommendation from
someone else. I installed it out of politeness so I could talk to him
about it.
And the network works better if there is another machine switched on.
<whistles tunelessly>
> It also does a tremendously good job at moving or copying huge numbers
> of files (or large files) from A to B, and plays pretty nice with
> network folders. (It even supports FTP.)
>
I'll bear that in mind. Thanks.
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Stephen
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