Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> In July 1969 I was on fieldwork in Southern France. I remember like the 
> day of yesterday how our team was stretched out in a dry river bed at 
> night (with some booze) looking up at the Moon and marvelling about the 
> fact that men were walking there overhead. It was a truly magical moment.

Btw, this is closely related to one of the reasons why I consider
conspiracy theorists to be such huge assholes.

The Apollo missions are a true marvel, one of the greatest achievements
of humankind in recent history. We can all admire in awe both our
technological progress and the courage of the men who put their lives
at risk to go beyond anything we had done before.

Then these conspiratards come and destroy people's childhood awe and
admiration by deceiving them, lying to them and using all the tricks
in the book to make them believe in falsities. They are crushing people's
childhoods and dreams with lies and deception. The people who once admired
those achievements end up feeling disillusioned and defrauded. They are
being lied to, but not by NASA. By those conspiratards.

The sad thing is how effective the techniques are that conspiracy theorists
use to convince people. It's like a religion. Once you become converted,
it's really, really hard to deconvert you, to make you see that you are
believing a lie, and that your original views are, in fact, the actual
truth.

-- 
                                                          - Warp

Post a reply to this message

On 06/11/2014 15:08, Bald Eagle wrote:
> RGB color and elections.
> Sounded  like a good tangent for the POV-Ray off-topic area...
>
> http://www.fastcodesign.com/3035951/the-glaring-design-flaw-in-us-election-maps
>
> Sadly, somehow, someone needs to "study election maps" at the university level
> to accomplish what any grammar school kids could accomplish on a V-Tech tablet
> in 5 minutes....
>
> I'd also say that it's less of an accomplishment than an exposure of the
> obfuscatory methods by which the media presents data.  I mean, they weren't
> lying, or lying by omission - because the data WAS presented...
>
>

Coincidentally In the "POV-Ray is getting some bad press over some 
Intel-compiler shenanigans." thread in P.general. The journalist swapped 
the colours for patched and original on the two graphs. Which in my 
opinion is misleading. But then I take everything that the media says 
and writes with a pinch of salt. One of the many jobs I've had was a 
techy one on a UK newspaper. Thick as mince most of these journos

-- 

Regards
     Stephen

Post a reply to this message

On 06/11/2014 15:40, Warp wrote:
> Btw, this is closely related to one of the reasons why I consider
> conspiracy theorists to be such huge assholes.

I am with you on that.

May I use a West Coast Scottish phrase that I think describes them.


Rude Warning below.


































They are as thick as sh!te in the neck of a bottle.

-- 

Regards
     Stephen

Post a reply to this message

On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 17:40:11 +0200, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:

> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
>> In July 1969 I was on fieldwork in Southern France. I remember like the
>> day of yesterday how our team was stretched out in a dry river bed at
>> night (with some booze) looking up at the Moon and marvelling about the
>> fact that men were walking there overhead. It was a truly magical  
>> moment.
>
> Btw, this is closely related to one of the reasons why I consider
> conspiracy theorists to be such huge assholes.
>
> The Apollo missions are a true marvel, one of the greatest achievements
> of humankind in recent history. We can all admire in awe both our
> technological progress and the courage of the men who put their lives
> at risk to go beyond anything we had done before.
>
> Then these conspiratards come and destroy people's childhood awe and
> admiration by deceiving them, lying to them and using all the tricks
> in the book to make them believe in falsities. They are crushing people's
> childhoods and dreams with lies and deception. The people who once  
> admired
> those achievements end up feeling disillusioned and defrauded. They are
> being lied to, but not by NASA. By those conspiratards.
>
> The sad thing is how effective the techniques are that conspiracy  
> theorists
> use to convince people. It's like a religion. Once you become converted,
> it's really, really hard to deconvert you, to make you see that you are
> believing a lie, and that your original views are, in fact, the actual
> truth.
>

They should be sentenced to flying the next Virgin Galactic flight.

-- 
-Nekar Xenos-

Post a reply to this message

On 6-11-2014 17:58, Nekar Xenos wrote:

> They should be sentenced to flying the next Virgin Galactic flight.
>
Too good for them. Tethered to the feathering device at the least :-)

Sadly enough, vanguard projects like Virgin or Apollo /need/(?) a 
catastrophe from time to time to pinpoint weak spots in the design and - 
ultimately - make the end result better and safer. I have deep respect 
for the test pilots indeed.

Thomas

Post a reply to this message

> One of the many jobs I've had was a
> techy one on a UK newspaper. Thick as mince most of these journos

Those that can, do. Those that can't, teach. Those that can't teach, 
report. :-)

Post a reply to this message

On 07/11/2014 09:12, scott wrote:
>> One of the many jobs I've had was a
>> techy one on a UK newspaper. Thick as mince most of these journos
>
> Those that can, do. Those that can't, teach. Those that can't teach,
> report. :-)
>

And those that can't report, sit and gawp. :-)

-- 

Regards
     Stephen

Post a reply to this message

> On 6-11-2014 17:58, Nekar Xenos wrote:
>
>> They should be sentenced to flying the next Virgin Galactic flight.
>>
> Too good for them. Tethered to the feathering device at the least :-)
>
> Sadly enough, vanguard projects like Virgin or Apollo /need/(?) a
> catastrophe from time to time to pinpoint weak spots in the design and -
> ultimately - make the end result better and safer. I have deep respect
> for the test pilots indeed.
>
> Thomas
>
Agreed. While all loss of life is tragic, it's better that these 
problems were found in testing rather than during a commercial flight.

-- 
/*Francois Labreque*/#local a=x+y;#local b=x+a;#local c=a+b;#macro P(F//
/*    flabreque    */L)polygon{5,F,F+z,L+z,L,F pigment{rgb 9}}#end union
/*        @        */{P(0,a)P(a,b)P(b,c)P(2*a,2*b)P(2*b,b+c)P(b+c,<2,3>)
/*   gmail.com     */}camera{orthographic location<6,1.25,-6>look_at a }

Post a reply to this message

On Fri, 07 Nov 2014 15:29:48 +0200, Francois Labreque  

<fla### [at] videotronca> wrote:


>> On 6-11-2014 17:58, Nekar Xenos wrote:
>>
>>> They should be sentenced to flying the next Virgin Galactic flight.
>>>
>> Too good for them. Tethered to the feathering device at the least :-)

>>
>> Sadly enough, vanguard projects like Virgin or Apollo /need/(?) a
>> catastrophe from time to time to pinpoint weak spots in the design an
d -
>> ultimately - make the end result better and safer. I have deep respec
t
>> for the test pilots indeed.
>>
>> Thomas
>>
> Agreed. While all loss of life is tragic, it's better that these  

> problems were found in testing rather than during a commercial flight.

>

Agreed. I fully support them. I would love to be able to go on a Virgin 
 

Galactic flight one day.

I think it would be really interesting to have test pilots consisting  

solely of moon landing conspiracy theorists :)

-- 

-Nekar Xenos-

Post a reply to this message

On 9-11-2014 11:50, Nekar Xenos wrote:
> On Fri, 07 Nov 2014 15:29:48 +0200, Francois Labreque
> <fla### [at] videotronca> wrote:
>

>>> On 6-11-2014 17:58, Nekar Xenos wrote:
>>>
>>>> They should be sentenced to flying the next Virgin Galactic flight.
>>>>
>>> Too good for them. Tethered to the feathering device at the least :-)
>>>
>>> Sadly enough, vanguard projects like Virgin or Apollo /need/(?) a
>>> catastrophe from time to time to pinpoint weak spots in the design and -
>>> ultimately - make the end result better and safer. I have deep respect
>>> for the test pilots indeed.
>>>
>>> Thomas
>>>
>> Agreed. While all loss of life is tragic, it's better that these
>> problems were found in testing rather than during a commercial flight.
>>
>
> Agreed. I fully support them. I would love to be able to go on a Virgin
> Galactic flight one day.
>
> I think it would be really interesting to have test pilots consisting
> solely of moon landing conspiracy theorists :)
>
They would crash to prove their point ;-)

Thomas

Post a reply to this message