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And lo on Wed, 02 Apr 2008 01:29:02 +0100, Darren New <dne### [at] san rrcom>
did spake, saying:
> Warp wrote:
>> As I mentioned, here the loser pays the winner's lawyer fees. Thus the
>> winner doesn't have to pay a dime.
>
> Who pays the lawyer *while* they're working? Before the case is
> decided? Or do the lawyers all work and only take payment at the end of
> the case?
Speaking personally I got an invoice at the end of the case and that was
what was arranged up front, but I suppose the length and amount of work
that needs to be done can alter that.
--
Phil Cook
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I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
http://flipc.blogspot.com
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On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 08:51:05 +0100, Stephen wrote:
> Nor I and I hope that I never do. I find this blame culture we in the UK
> are developing most distasteful.
I really dislike it here in the US. Nobody has personal responsibility
for anything they do these days.
Jim
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Stephen wrote:
> That is good because I thought that I was falsely blaming America for
> starting the practice. :)
Culture *is* America's greatest export. :-)
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
"That's pretty. Where's that?"
"It's the Age of Channelwood."
"We should go there on vacation some time."
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Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Who pays the lawyer *while* they're working?
>
> Your insurance company?-)
Hmmm... Where can I buy Anti-RIAA lawsuit insurance? :-)
I don't know. I'd think the insurance company would only pay out at the
end, when they find they need to pay something. Of course, if they're
defending their *own* money, then sure.
Phil Cook wrote:
> Speaking personally I got an invoice at the end of the case and that was
> what was arranged up front, but I suppose the length and amount of work
> that needs to be done can alter that.
Huh. Maybe it *does* work that way. As I said, I have only secondhand
knowledge of this stuff.
Still, a 1% chance of losing 10 million dollars is certainly something
you might want to avoid by paying $1000.
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
"That's pretty. Where's that?"
"It's the Age of Channelwood."
"We should go there on vacation some time."
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On 2 Apr 2008 09:51:11 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 08:51:05 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>
>> Nor I and I hope that I never do. I find this blame culture we in the UK
>> are developing most distasteful.
>
>I really dislike it here in the US. Nobody has personal responsibility
>for anything they do these days.
>
>Jim
Well we are about 10 to 15 years behind you and catching up :(
--
Regards
Stephen
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> > Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> >> Who pays the lawyer *while* they're working?
> >
> > Your insurance company?-)
> Hmmm... Where can I buy Anti-RIAA lawsuit insurance? :-)
> I don't know. I'd think the insurance company would only pay out at the
> end, when they find they need to pay something. Of course, if they're
> defending their *own* money, then sure.
At least here most insurance companies offer free legal advice right
away. You don't have to pay anything at any point. (Whether your insurance
payments increase later is probably a different story.)
Also many labor unions offer free legal advice to all their members.
Of course if you have no insurance nor belong to any such labor union,
I suppose you have pay quite considerable fees to the lawyer.
--
- Warp
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On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 08:01:50 -0700, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom>
wrote:
>Stephen wrote:
>> That is good because I thought that I was falsely blaming America for
>> starting the practice. :)
>
>Culture *is* America's greatest export. :-)
We are talking "Credits and Debits" here?
Well! I take it all back. Americans do have a sense of humour :)
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Regards
Stephen
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Warp wrote:
> Of course if you have no insurance nor belong to any such labor union,
> I suppose you have pay quite considerable fees to the lawyer.
Yeah, we have similar things here too. You can also pay (something
around) $30/month to hire a law firm on retainer or some such, so you
wind up with on-demand legal advice. Never used it, so I can't say what
kind of quality you get.
It doesn't eliminate the risk of getting a really stupid jury to find
you guilty of millions of dollars of damages for copying once CD. :-)
It sounds like there's really nothing obvious others are doing to
eliminate the essential problem, but rather just a number of small
modifications to the process, many of them cultural.
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
"That's pretty. Where's that?"
"It's the Age of Channelwood."
"We should go there on vacation some time."
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On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:40:31 +0100, Stephen wrote:
> On 2 Apr 2008 09:51:11 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 08:51:05 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> Nor I and I hope that I never do. I find this blame culture we in the
>>> UK are developing most distasteful.
>>
>>I really dislike it here in the US. Nobody has personal responsibility
>>for anything they do these days.
>>
>>Jim
> Well we are about 10 to 15 years behind you and catching up :(
You need to slow down on that - it's a very bad trend.
Jim
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On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 08:01:50 -0700, Darren New wrote:
> Stephen wrote:
>> That is good because I thought that I was falsely blaming America for
>> starting the practice. :)
>
> Culture *is* America's greatest export. :-)
I thought it was "democracy". ;-)
Jim
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