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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Creative flub..
Date: 1 Apr 2008 19:29:02
Message: <47f2d34e@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   As I mentioned, here the loser pays the winner's lawyer fees. Thus the
> winner doesn't have to pay a dime.

Who pays the lawyer *while* they're working?  Before the case is 
decided? Or do the lawyers all work and only take payment at the end of 
the case?

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     "That's pretty. Where's that?"
          "It's the Age of Channelwood."
     "We should go there on vacation some time."


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Creative flub..
Date: 2 Apr 2008 02:39:30
Message: <47f33832@news.povray.org>
> In this case, the very clear fact that the specification sheat on the
> 2007x version **claimed** compatibility with the same road, when it
> didn't actually have it,

In that case you can easily take it back for a refund, for not performing as 
advertised.

And then there's probably some official organisation in your country that 
looks into these claims of false advertising and deals with them.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Creative flub..
Date: 2 Apr 2008 02:51:18
Message: <g4e6v3hb54u2b1ibevo6auo1mgpuml02p0@4ax.com>
On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 17:28:24 -0700, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom>
wrote:

>Stephen wrote:
>> Do you not have "No win, no fee" lawers in the States?
>
>Yes, but they won't take cases they're not guaranteed to win easily. :-)
>

That is good because I thought that I was falsely blaming America for
starting the practice. :)

>Most times, you pay the lawyer up front, and then you get reimbursed by 
>the loser.
>
>Not that I have a whole lot of experience with court cases, mind.

Nor I and I hope that I never do. I find this blame culture we in the
UK are developing most distasteful. 
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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Creative flub..
Date: 2 Apr 2008 03:30:29
Message: <47f34424@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Who pays the lawyer *while* they're working?

  Your insurance company?-)

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Phil Cook
Subject: Re: Creative flub..
Date: 2 Apr 2008 04:57:50
Message: <op.t8y9ynmqc3xi7v@news.povray.org>
And lo on Wed, 02 Apr 2008 01:29:02 +0100, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom>  
did spake, saying:

> Warp wrote:
>>   As I mentioned, here the loser pays the winner's lawyer fees. Thus the
>> winner doesn't have to pay a dime.
>
> Who pays the lawyer *while* they're working?  Before the case is  
> decided? Or do the lawyers all work and only take payment at the end of  
> the case?

Speaking personally I got an invoice at the end of the case and that was  
what was arranged up front, but I suppose the length and amount of work  
that needs to be done can alter that.

-- 
Phil Cook

--
I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
http://flipc.blogspot.com


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Creative flub..
Date: 2 Apr 2008 09:51:11
Message: <47f39d5f$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 08:51:05 +0100, Stephen wrote:

> Nor I and I hope that I never do. I find this blame culture we in the UK
> are developing most distasteful.

I really dislike it here in the US.  Nobody has personal responsibility 
for anything they do these days.

Jim


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Creative flub..
Date: 2 Apr 2008 10:01:50
Message: <47f39fde$1@news.povray.org>
Stephen wrote:
> That is good because I thought that I was falsely blaming America for
> starting the practice. :)

Culture *is* America's greatest export. :-)

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     "That's pretty. Where's that?"
          "It's the Age of Channelwood."
     "We should go there on vacation some time."


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Creative flub..
Date: 2 Apr 2008 10:04:22
Message: <47f3a076$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Who pays the lawyer *while* they're working?
> 
>   Your insurance company?-)

Hmmm... Where can I buy Anti-RIAA lawsuit insurance? :-)

I don't know. I'd think the insurance company would only pay out at the 
end, when they find they need to pay something. Of course, if they're 
defending their *own* money, then sure.

Phil Cook wrote:
 > Speaking personally I got an invoice at the end of the case and that was
 > what was arranged up front, but I suppose the length and amount of work
 > that needs to be done can alter that.

Huh. Maybe it *does* work that way. As I said, I have only secondhand 
knowledge of this stuff.

Still, a 1% chance of losing 10 million dollars is certainly something 
you might want to avoid by paying $1000.

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     "That's pretty. Where's that?"
          "It's the Age of Channelwood."
     "We should go there on vacation some time."


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Creative flub..
Date: 2 Apr 2008 10:41:57
Message: <86a7v3tr8nmntaov28j5q6pol8c8a39ln0@4ax.com>
On 2 Apr 2008 09:51:11 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 08:51:05 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>
>> Nor I and I hope that I never do. I find this blame culture we in the UK
>> are developing most distasteful.
>
>I really dislike it here in the US.  Nobody has personal responsibility 
>for anything they do these days.
>
>Jim
Well we are about 10 to 15 years behind you and catching up :(
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Creative flub..
Date: 2 Apr 2008 10:47:16
Message: <47f3aa84@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> > Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> >> Who pays the lawyer *while* they're working?
> > 
> >   Your insurance company?-)

> Hmmm... Where can I buy Anti-RIAA lawsuit insurance? :-)

> I don't know. I'd think the insurance company would only pay out at the 
> end, when they find they need to pay something. Of course, if they're 
> defending their *own* money, then sure.

  At least here most insurance companies offer free legal advice right
away. You don't have to pay anything at any point. (Whether your insurance
payments increase later is probably a different story.)

  Also many labor unions offer free legal advice to all their members.

  Of course if you have no insurance nor belong to any such labor union,
I suppose you have pay quite considerable fees to the lawyer.

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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