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Ger wrote:
> Missouri weather is actually very good to grow tomatoes.
Sure, if they're schizophrenic. And tornado-proof. And flood-proof.
Since the planet started warming up so drastically, Missouri weather has
gone from erratic to vindictive, with a dash of Adding Insult to Injury.
Like when the ice storm of 2007 used my apple trees* to destroy my
hazelnut bushes.
Then there was the Christmas 2015 flood on the little baby river that
marks one edge of my property. I didn't actually get to see it, as I
was spending the holidays with my sister. (Probably just as well; I
might have had a stroke or something.) I was delayed a few days getting
home because there was literally no way to get there that didn't involve
a helicopter and/or parachute. Fortunately, all of my lawn and garden
stuff that normally stays outside was already moved well above the
high-water mark of the Big One of '93. Well, I've found most of it,
some of it fairly high up in trees. The only thing it didn't move was
the giant piece of wadded-up corrugated steel (possibly a barn roof)
that the Leap-Day Tornado of 2012 left in my front yard.
> Hey there, I originate from the largest tomato exporting country in the
> world. It's not a large country by any means but man, do they grow a lot of
> those red rubber balls.
Amelia would love that! May I ask what country?
> Yes, I was lucky to grow up with a few uncles, and cousins, that were in the
> food growing business. One uncle grew lettuce, cucumbers and tomatoes in
> greenhouses. ... What the family
> ate was free to roam the field, the cows got bigger the pigs got way bigger
> and the chickens could dig in the mud however much they wanted. And they
> tasted great.
That sounds about right. It used to be common in this part of the
country for farmers (no matter what they were raising to sell) to keep a
milk cow or two, some chickens, maybe a hog, and always a big kitchen
garden. Except (possibly) for the garden, I'm afraid those days are
rapidly ending. At least, some family farmers have found new ways to
survive; for example, there are some people up the road from me a ways
who raise llamas. (And a lot I know about it; though I've nearly always
lived in rural areas, my immediate family weren't farmers at all, though
I've been acquainted with a lot of people who were.)
> A little tip, if you water tomato plants, don't get the plants wet, just the
> ground.
Here's another: Don't teach Grandma to suck eggs. LOL.
Seriously, in years past I had some really good gardens, and a few
amazing ones. Canned many, many quarts of tomatoes. Froze many, many
bags of green beans. Canned gazillions of jars of assorted pickles and
relishes. Baked many delicious pumpkin pies out of butternut squash.
Learned dozens of creative ways to cook or otherwise dispose of
zucchini. (Old joke: "How do you recognize a Missourian with no
friends?" "You see him buying zucchini at the supermarket.") Peppers,
both sweet and hot. Corn. Popcorn. Green onions (never had any luck
with the big ones, but hey, they're cheap). Bird house gourds. The
list goes on and on. But the Big One of '93 marked the beginning of the
end.
> Coming season plant cherry tomatoes. I know, the ones coming from a store
> taste like ping pong balls on Valium, but if you roast them in the oven with
> some olive oil, salt and pepper. I'm almost certain you'll love them.
One year, we grew some little orange, pear-shaped grape tomatoes--don't
remember the name of the variety, but they were really delicious. The
real trick was to get some of them into the house and onto a plate. :)
These last few years, though, it's always been too hot or too cold,
too wet or too dry, or some hideous combination of all of the above.
Plus tornadoes and out-of-season floods...
> Dunno what part of the Missouri universe you are in...
The rural Ozark part.
>>>> * Black pepper, garlic powder, cumin, and paprika. And, of course, love.
>
> No fresh garlic? This saddens me deeply :)
It's a RUB. You mix up dry stuff and put it in a jar in the cabinet to
use as needed. Fresh ingredients may be added as desired when the meat
is actually cooked, including, but not limited to--oh, look! A shiny thing!
> Com'on lady, Missouri soil is ideal to grow both onions and cayenne peppers...
You say "soil" as if you were referring to something with actual dirt
content (as opposed to, say, a mixture of little chips of chert and
assorted chunks of limestone and/or granite, garnished with the
occasional boulder). Although I have seen some marvelous strawberries
growing out of what appeared to be several acres of river gravel.
>> --Sherry "One Giant Mass of Wrinkles" Shaw
>>
> At 22? I doubt it very much :)
Awesome math skills!
--Sherry Shaw
* BTW, were those apple blossoms in Andy's lovely photographs? In
February??? Sigh.
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On 27/02/2016 02:56 AM, Nekar Xenos wrote:
> On 2016/02/23 11:08 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>> Or, then again, maybe I'm just delusional...
>
> You mean when it started? The name Coca-Cola refers to two of its
> original ingredients: kola nuts, a source of caffeine, and coca
> leaves(Cocaine). :S
> I don't think you're that old though. IIRC the sugar manufacturing
> process may have changed a bit since the 70's.
>
> I didn't drink coke until the late 80's and I have noticed
> inconsistencies in the taste regularly. But it seems only to be a case
> of this can is slightly sweeter today and the next day it's back to normal.
>
> Come to think of it, I think you're right. I'm sure it used to have a
> bit more zing to it. But that could also be a case of our systems
> becoming so used to it that you need stronger doses to get the same
> effect. This is starting to sound like ...
Maybe it was during the whole "New Coke" fiasco. I don't know if that
was just in the USA though. Or what year that was.
I remember Coca-Cola being somewhat less tangy, and having a slightly
more caramel flavour.
But hey, now I just drink Dr Pepper...
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On 2/27/2016 8:45 AM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> On 27/02/2016 02:56 AM, Nekar Xenos wrote:
>> On 2016/02/23 11:08 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>>> Or, then again, maybe I'm just delusional...
>>
>> You mean when it started? The name Coca-Cola refers to two of its
>> original ingredients: kola nuts, a source of caffeine, and coca
>> leaves(Cocaine). :S
>> I don't think you're that old though. IIRC the sugar manufacturing
>> process may have changed a bit since the 70's.
>>
>> I didn't drink coke until the late 80's and I have noticed
>> inconsistencies in the taste regularly. But it seems only to be a case
>> of this can is slightly sweeter today and the next day it's back to
>> normal.
>>
>> Come to think of it, I think you're right. I'm sure it used to have a
>> bit more zing to it. But that could also be a case of our systems
>> becoming so used to it that you need stronger doses to get the same
>> effect. This is starting to sound like ...
>
> Maybe it was during the whole "New Coke" fiasco. I don't know if that
> was just in the USA though. Or what year that was.
>
> I remember Coca-Cola being somewhat less tangy, and having a slightly
> more caramel flavour.
>
They* vary the formula over time and space. Different regions have
different tastes and the formula/mix is varied over time. That is to
stop you getting bored with the same taste.
*
They are the bottler and distributor. In Europe it is Coca-Cola
Enterprises. I did a job there a few years back and got the full "Rah
rah" tour.
> But hey, now I just drink Dr Pepper...
Coconut water for me.
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Stephen
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Stephen wrote:
> FSM? You're not a Pastafarian by any chance?
Alternating on odd/even days with Pantheistic Multiperson Solipsism...
--Sherry Shaw
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On 2/28/2016 5:08 AM, Sherry K. Shaw wrote:
> Stephen wrote:
>
>> FSM? You're not a Pastafarian by any chance?
>
> Alternating on odd/even days with Pantheistic Multiperson Solipsism...
>
> --Sherry Shaw
>
>
Oh! I am a member on days that are prime plus one.
Have you come far? ;-)
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Stephen
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Sherry K. Shaw wrote:
>
> Sure, if they're schizophrenic. And tornado-proof. And flood-proof.
Only slightly
>
>> Hey there, I originate from the largest tomato exporting country in the
>> world. It's not a large country by any means but man, do they grow a lot
>> of those red rubber balls.
>
> Amelia would love that! May I ask what country?
Tell Amelia that I'm Dutch. Origin of the great rubber ball flood. And
tulips. Damn fucking tulips. I hate those flowers. Oh and roses, plenty of
roses. Grown in Africa.
>
>> Yes, I was lucky to grow up with a few uncles, and cousins, that were in
>> the food growing business. One uncle grew lettuce, cucumbers and tomatoes
>> in greenhouses. ... What the family
>> ate was free to roam the field, the cows got bigger the pigs got way
>> bigger and the chickens could dig in the mud however much they wanted. And
>> they tasted great.
>
> That sounds about right. It used to be common in this part of the
> country for farmers (no matter what they were raising to sell) to keep a
> milk cow or two, some chickens, maybe a hog, and always a big kitchen
> garden. Except (possibly) for the garden, I'm afraid those days are
> rapidly ending. At least, some family farmers have found new ways to
> survive; for example, there are some people up the road from me a ways
> who raise llamas. (And a lot I know about it; though I've nearly always
> lived in rural areas, my immediate family weren't farmers at all, though
> I've been acquainted with a lot of people who were.)
>
>> A little tip, if you water tomato plants, don't get the plants wet, just
>> the ground.
>
> Here's another: Don't teach Grandma to suck eggs. LOL.
>
Okay, I won't. My last grandma passed away when I was 10, I never knew the
other one.
> Seriously, in years past I had some really good gardens, and a few
> amazing ones. Canned many, many quarts of tomatoes. Froze many, many
> bags of green beans. Canned gazillions of jars of assorted pickles and
> relishes. Baked many delicious pumpkin pies out of butternut squash.
> Learned dozens of creative ways to cook or otherwise dispose of
> zucchini. (Old joke: "How do you recognize a Missourian with no
> friends?" "You see him buying zucchini at the supermarket.")
I don't grow zucchinis nor do I eat them. Ugly crud. Should be a law against
them. Just like okra. Nasty shit.
> Peppers,
> both sweet and hot. Corn. Popcorn. Green onions (never had any luck
> with the big ones, but hey, they're cheap). Bird house gourds. The
> list goes on and on. But the Big One of '93 marked the beginning of the
> end.
>
I wasn't here in '93 so don't blame me. I didn't do it.
>> Coming season plant cherry tomatoes. I know, the ones coming from a store
>> taste like ping pong balls on Valium, but if you roast them in the oven
>> with some olive oil, salt and pepper. I'm almost certain you'll love them.
>
> One year, we grew some little orange, pear-shaped grape tomatoes--don't
> remember the name of the variety, but they were really delicious.
Yumm, those are great. I didn't plant any, but Lenny, my neighbor had a ton.
Oven roasted, or fried in a skillet. Or just plain right of the vine with a
bit of salt.
> The
> real trick was to get some of them into the house and onto a plate. :)
> These last few years, though, it's always been too hot or too cold,
> too wet or too dry, or some hideous combination of all of the above.
> Plus tornadoes and out-of-season floods...
>
>> Dunno what part of the Missouri universe you are in...
>
> The rural Ozark part.
I love that part, passed through it plenty times on my way to Arkansas.
It's a beautiful area.
>
>>>>> * Black pepper, garlic powder, cumin, and paprika. And, of course,
>>>>> love.
>>
>> No fresh garlic? This saddens me deeply :)
>
> It's a RUB. You mix up dry stuff and put it in a jar in the cabinet to
> use as needed.
Okay, okay, no need to RUB it in.
> Fresh ingredients may be added as desired when the meat
> is actually cooked, including, but not limited to--oh, look! A shiny
> thing!
On all my trips to Arkansas I never saw a shiny thing in the Ozark region.
Have to have a better look next time.
>
>> Com'on lady, Missouri soil is ideal to grow both onions and cayenne
>> peppers...
>
> You say "soil" as if you were referring to something with actual dirt
> content
What can I say, I live in an area called CLAY county. Must be for a reason.
Not that I live there, but that they called it that.
> (as opposed to, say, a mixture of little chips of chert and
> assorted chunks of limestone and/or granite, garnished with the
> occasional boulder). Although I have seen some marvelous strawberries
> growing out of what appeared to be several acres of river gravel.
>
Where I come from most strawberries are not grown in dirt but in rock wool
insulation. They look great, are firm, no blemishes and you might as well
chew on your mattress. Same taste.
>>> --Sherry "One Giant Mass of Wrinkles" Shaw
>>>
>> At 22? I doubt it very much :)
>
> Awesome math skills!
>
Hah, you haven't seen my juggling skills yet**.
> --Sherry Shaw
>
> * BTW, were those apple blossoms in Andy's lovely photographs? In
> February??? Sigh.
>
--
Ger
** Neither have I.
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On 28-2-2016 9:13, Stephen wrote:
> On 2/28/2016 5:08 AM, Sherry K. Shaw wrote:
>> Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> FSM? You're not a Pastafarian by any chance?
>>
>> Alternating on odd/even days with Pantheistic Multiperson Solipsism...
>>
>> --Sherry Shaw
>>
>>
>
> Oh! I am a member on days that are prime plus one.
>
That seems good! I think I should become an adept now that I discovered
what it is all about. :-)
--
Thomas
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On 28-2-2016 9:53, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 28-2-2016 9:13, Stephen wrote:
>> On 2/28/2016 5:08 AM, Sherry K. Shaw wrote:
>>> Stephen wrote:
>>>
>>>> FSM? You're not a Pastafarian by any chance?
>>>
>>> Alternating on odd/even days with Pantheistic Multiperson Solipsism...
>>>
>>> --Sherry Shaw
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Oh! I am a member on days that are prime plus one.
>>
>
> That seems good! I think I should become an adept now that I discovered
> what it is all about. :-)
>
Now that I think about it, I think the representation of the Flying
Spaghetti Monster should be one of the next TC-RTC Challenges, the
results being linked to the church.
--
Thomas
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On 2/28/2016 8:57 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 28-2-2016 9:53, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 28-2-2016 9:13, Stephen wrote:
>>> On 2/28/2016 5:08 AM, Sherry K. Shaw wrote:
>>>> Stephen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> FSM? You're not a Pastafarian by any chance?
>>>>
>>>> Alternating on odd/even days with Pantheistic Multiperson Solipsism...
>>>>
>>>> --Sherry Shaw
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Oh! I am a member on days that are prime plus one.
>>>
>>
>> That seems good! I think I should become an adept now that I discovered
>> what it is all about. :-)
>>
>
> Now that I think about it, I think the representation of the Flying
> Spaghetti Monster should be one of the next TC-RTC Challenges, the
> results being linked to the church.
>
I hope that there is no prohibition on showing true images of the FSM.
We don't want to get into trouble. ;-)
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Stephen
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On 2/28/2016 8:53 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 28-2-2016 9:13, Stephen wrote:
>> On 2/28/2016 5:08 AM, Sherry K. Shaw wrote:
>>> Stephen wrote:
>>>
>>>> FSM? You're not a Pastafarian by any chance?
>>>
>>> Alternating on odd/even days with Pantheistic Multiperson Solipsism...
>>>
>>> --Sherry Shaw
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Oh! I am a member on days that are prime plus one.
>>
>
> That seems good! I think I should become an adept now that I discovered
> what it is all about. :-)
>
I just liked the way the words added up. :-)
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Stephen
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