On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 21:52:48 +0000, Stephen wrote:

>>> Elevator music is another name for musak. Which is often heard when on
>>> hold. Or in a hotel foyer.
>>
>> So "elevator musak" is redundant. ;)
>>
> No it is an emphasiser like saying hot hot.

If you say so - it sounds more like "PIN Number" or "ATM Machine" to 
me. ;)

>>>>> I was talking about Edinburgh Rock. The best thing to come out of
>>>>> Edinburgh, the road to Glasgow, excluded. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> I'll have to remember that one the next time I'm talking with friends
>>>> who live in Scotland.  Especially the ones who live in Edinburgh. ;)
>>>>
>>>>
>>> It is a steal from Dr Johnson.
>>
>> Oh, sure, try and defer the credit. ;)
>>
>>
> Just trying to save you embarrassment. The phrase is very well known, by
> the educated. :P

Oooh, them's fightin' words! ;)

Jim



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On 10/28/2015 10:26 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 21:52:48 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>>>> Elevator music is another name for musak. Which is often heard when on
>>>> hold. Or in a hotel foyer.
>>>
>>> So "elevator musak" is redundant. ;)
>>>
>> No it is an emphasiser like saying hot hot.
>
> If you say so - it sounds more like "PIN Number" or "ATM Machine" to
> me. ;)
>

Quite right. But the question, now is: Why did he do it?
Elevator Musak is not in common usage. I made it up especially for you.


>>>>>> I was talking about Edinburgh Rock. The best thing to come out of
>>>>>> Edinburgh, the road to Glasgow, excluded. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll have to remember that one the next time I'm talking with friends
>>>>> who live in Scotland.  Especially the ones who live in Edinburgh. ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> It is a steal from Dr Johnson.
>>>
>>> Oh, sure, try and defer the credit. ;)
>>>
>>>
>> Just trying to save you embarrassment. The phrase is very well known, by
>> the educated. :P
>
> Oooh, them's fightin' words! ;)
>

Only amongst people who are not friends.


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     Stephen

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On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 22:44:47 +0000, Stephen wrote:

>>>> So "elevator musak" is redundant. ;)
>>>>
>>> No it is an emphasiser like saying hot hot.
>>
>> If you say so - it sounds more like "PIN Number" or "ATM Machine" to
>> me. ;)
>>
> Quite right. But the question, now is: Why did he do it?
> Elevator Musak is not in common usage. I made it up especially for you.

So many questions.  I think you did it for the points. ;)

>>> Just trying to save you embarrassment. The phrase is very well known,
>>> by the educated. :P
>>
>> Oooh, them's fightin' words! ;)
>>
>>
> Only amongst people who are not friends.

;)

Jim



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besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw

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On 10/28/2015 11:25 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> So many questions.

Are we there yet?

> I think you did it for the points.;)

And points mean...?


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On 26/10/2015 07:01 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> Don't get me wrong, I think it's *way* easier to learn system-level
> programming on obsolete hardware. (It's how *I* did it!) But I doubt
> many kids these days would get out of bed to see some blocky 8-bit
> graphics.

https://hackaday.com/2015/10/19/diy-computer-1968-style/

"You can argue that times change and that the paperclip computer is a 
relic. Maybe. But I can’t help think if you built one of 
these–especially as a kid–you’d get a lot more insight into how a 
computer actually works than by only slinging some Javascript, or 
setting up a Web server on a Raspberry Pi."

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> On the Pi, until you poke the GPU, the CPU isn't even *turned on*...

Did you look here:

https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/projects/raspberrypi/tutorials/os/index.html

The benefit of the pi over IBM-compatible is that (IMHO) the assembler 
is much easier to learn and use.

I think if children could see their simple first creations running on 
their smartphone or tablet that would encourage them a lot. However you 
need a massive chunk of experience and knowledge to even *install* the 
Android SDK, let alone start writing a new app.

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On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 06:35:54 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 10/28/2015 11:25 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> So many questions.
> 
> Are we there yet?

On first. :)

>> I think you did it for the points.;)
> 
> And points mean...?

Junctions on railroad lines, naturally. ;)

Jim



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besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw

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On 10/29/2015 5:15 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> And points mean...?
> Junctions on railroad lines, naturally.;)

Oh! I thought it was 1⁄72 of an inch.
Thanks for that. :-P

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On 29/10/2015 11:37 AM, scott wrote:
> The benefit of the pi over IBM-compatible is that (IMHO) the assembler
> is much easier to learn and use.

Yeah, I haven't done a lot with x86 assembly, but with 40 years of 
backwards-compatibility, it's pretty complicated. And ugly to start 
with, it seems! (Well, it was originally designed for low-cost pocket 
calculators, not supercomputers!)

I often wished more stuff could be like the Motorola 68000. That seemed 
like a really nice architecture to work with.

> I think if children could see their simple first creations running on
> their smartphone or tablet that would encourage them a lot.

Agree.

> However you
> need a massive chunk of experience and knowledge to even *install* the
> Android SDK, let alone start writing a new app.

Also agree!

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On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 18:50:51 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 10/29/2015 5:15 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> And points mean...?
>> Junctions on railroad lines, naturally.;)
> 
> Oh! I thought it was 1⁄72 of an inch. Thanks for that. :-P

Always glad to be of service. :)

Jim
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besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw

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