On 10/16/2015 8:34 AM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> Today, I guess all phones run Andriod, and are thus identical in every
> respect... (The odd one out being the iPhone, of course.)

Never, ever take up gambling for a living. :-P
Each manufacturer has their own GUI and controls. And if you root the 
device you can customise it even more.

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     Stephen

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> Whatever happened to OLED anyway? And flexible displays? The world seems
> to have stopped caring...

OLED was used in the Samsung Galaxy S2 for example. I think it's turned 
out not to be the killer of LCD for a few reasons: it uses more power 
than LCD, it struggled to keep up with the high ppi achievable with LCD, 
and the visual quality gap between OLED and LCD closed up a lot faster 
than people expected.

A lot of cool stuff is possible with displays, it's just nowadays 
everyone seems more concerned with price rather than cool features. For 
example BMW used to use a "transflective" LCD in their cars, where each 
pixel is divided into a reflective and transmissive part. This means 
even in direct sunlight the display looks just a good as in darkness. 
However they stopped using those because they were too expensive (many 
more steps in making the glass, plus a much stronger backlight), and in 
their eyes so long as the screen looks good in the showroom (where there 
is no sun) it doesn't matter how it looks out on the road. They saved 
their 20 euro on their 30000 euro car and they were happy.

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>> In my old job we used to develop displays for Nokia (back when they were
>> #1)
>
> So we may have been colleagues in a sense, for some time. I did work for
> Nokia on handsfree kits and headsets in the mid-00s.

Yes maybe :-) It must have been from about 03-06 that I was working on 
those projects, mainly working with the Nokia team in Copenhagen. 
Although I did manage a few trips to Finland, all during winter though 
unfortunately, so my memories of Finland are all very dark and cold!

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On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 08:45:38 +0100, Stephen wrote:

> On 10/16/2015 8:34 AM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>> Today, I guess all phones run Andriod, and are thus identical in every
>> respect... (The odd one out being the iPhone, of course.)
> 
> Never, ever take up gambling for a living. :-P Each manufacturer has
> their own GUI and controls. And if you root the device you can customise
> it even more.

Ah, Stephen, you forget that Andy's the youngest luddite on the planet. ;)

Jim



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besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw

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On 10/16/2015 5:22 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> Ah, Stephen, you forget that Andy's the youngest luddite on the planet.;)

How could I forget? ;-)

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     Stephen

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On 16/10/2015 08:45 AM, Stephen wrote:
> On 10/16/2015 8:34 AM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>> Today, I guess all phones run Andriod, and are thus identical in every
>> respect... (The odd one out being the iPhone, of course.)
>
> Never, ever take up gambling for a living. :-P

You are kidding? That's not a "living"! :-P

> Each manufacturer has their own GUI and controls.

...and now I'm thinking about all the crapwhere that gets installed on 
big-name PCs. Usually stuff like "this special toolbar allows you to 
open the Internet with just one click, in case you're too retarded to 
know how to open a web browser all by yourself". Man, that doesn't sound 
fun...

> And if you root the device you can customise it even more.

Presumably only a tiny proportion of people actually do that though.

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On 16/10/2015 05:22 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> Ah, Stephen, you forget that Andy's the youngest luddite on the planet. ;)

As somebody who's been addicted to computer technology for decades, I do 
find this rather odd...

I keep looking at Twitter and screaming "why the **** do you EXIST?!" I 
have no idea why anybody would pay $90 for the Wolfram Alpha web-app 
when you can just surf to the site itself for $0. (But then, Wolfram 
Alpha itself seems to be a solution desperately searching for a 
problem... But at least it makes sense!) I can't imagine why you would 
pay money for a Crazy Frog ringtone. (Fortunately that one at least 
seems to have died...)

...and now I sound like somebody's dad. What the hell is going on?!

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On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 18:03:34 +0100, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:

> On 16/10/2015 05:22 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> Ah, Stephen, you forget that Andy's the youngest luddite on the planet.
>> ;)
> 
> As somebody who's been addicted to computer technology for decades, I do
> find this rather odd...

Just a joke. :)

> I keep looking at Twitter and screaming "why the **** do you EXIST?!" I
> have no idea why anybody would pay $90 for the Wolfram Alpha web-app
> when you can just surf to the site itself for $0. (But then, Wolfram
> Alpha itself seems to be a solution desperately searching for a
> problem... But at least it makes sense!) I can't imagine why you would
> pay money for a Crazy Frog ringtone. (Fortunately that one at least
> seems to have died...)
> 
> ...and now I sound like somebody's dad. What the hell is going on?!

The question is, whose dad do you sound like? :)

Jim



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"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw

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On 10/16/2015 5:57 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> On 16/10/2015 08:45 AM, Stephen wrote:
>> On 10/16/2015 8:34 AM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>>> Today, I guess all phones run Andriod, and are thus identical in every
>>> respect... (The odd one out being the iPhone, of course.)
>>
>> Never, ever take up gambling for a living. :-P
>
> You are kidding? That's not a "living"! :-P
>

It can be for some people. But if not a living it can be a source of 
additional income.
Personally I never gamble with anything as trivial as money.

>> Each manufacturer has their own GUI and controls.
>
> ....and now I'm thinking about all the crapwhere that gets installed on
> big-name PCs. Usually stuff like "this special toolbar allows you to
> open the Internet with just one click, in case you're too retarded to
> know how to open a web browser all by yourself". Man, that doesn't sound
> fun...
>

I don't think anyone on this newsgroup is qualified to complain about 
crapware (I prefer my spelling :-) ). I know quite a few people who need 
a F1 key to go to the toilet with a computer.

>> And if you root the device you can customise it even more.
>
> Presumably only a tiny proportion of people actually do that though.

Have a look on some forums. You might be surprised.
I rooted my last phone when it was having battery problems and 
need/wanted to install an App to monitor and shut down unwanted 
programs. Some people root their phones just because they can.

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     Stephen

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Am 16.10.2015 um 10:32 schrieb scott:
>>> In my old job we used to develop displays for Nokia (back when they were
>>> #1)
>>
>> So we may have been colleagues in a sense, for some time. I did work for
>> Nokia on handsfree kits and headsets in the mid-00s.
> 
> Yes maybe :-) It must have been from about 03-06 that I was working on
> those projects, mainly working with the Nokia team in Copenhagen.
> Although I did manage a few trips to Finland, all during winter though
> unfortunately, so my memories of Finland are all very dark and cold!

I've only seen Finland myself once. It was Bochum (Germany) for me,
until they closed down the mobile phone business there. I continued to
work at the very same office for a company then-newly founded to
continue Nokia Bochum's handsfree kit business, but after a few months
of seeing working conditions and payment deteriorate I decided that it
was time for me to get the hell out of Dodge.

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