On 24/09/2014 15:18, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 24-9-2014 14:11, Stephen wrote:
>> You did make yourself clear, Thomas.
>> But someone need to take the blame. ;-)
>>
>>
>
> Oh right! Did I tell you about the day I thought I stepped on a sand
> hump, which proved to be cow dung?  :-D
>

No but it reminds me of the urban myth we had when I was a child.
It was a bit like knocking the door and running away. The twist was that 
you put some dog droppings in a paper bag outside someone's door, set 
fire to it, knock the door and run away.
The idea was that the householder would come to the door in his slippers 
see the fire and stamp on it to put the flames out.
For certain age groups that was very funny.
My next door neighbour's granddaughter has not heard about the paper bag 
thing.
Cheeky little beasom. ;-)

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On 24-9-2014 16:39, Stephen wrote:
>> Oh right! Did I tell you about the day I thought I stepped on a sand
>> hump, which proved to be cow dung?  :-D
>>
>
> No but it reminds me of the urban myth we had when I was a child.
> It was a bit like knocking the door and running away. The twist was that
> you put some dog droppings in a paper bag outside someone's door, set
> fire to it, knock the door and run away.
> The idea was that the householder would come to the door in his slippers
> see the fire and stamp on it to put the flames out.
> For certain age groups that was very funny.
> My next door neighbour's granddaughter has not heard about the paper bag
> thing.
> Cheeky little beasom. ;-)
>

LOL

Schadenfreude indeed when it happens. I was on fieldwork with a 
colleague and we had to cross a barbed wire fence. I thought that sand 
hump on the other side very convenient to put my foot on and help me 
over. The season was dry and sand had been blown over a dung heap put 
there by the farmer. My colleague was literally rolling over the ground 
laughing seeing me soiled up to my knee. My own laugh was rather 
sheepish... :-)

Thomas

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On 24/09/2014 16:02, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Schadenfreude indeed when it happens. I was on fieldwork with a
> colleague and we had to cross a barbed wire fence. I thought that sand
> hump on the other side very convenient to put my foot on and help me
> over. The season was dry and sand had been blown over a dung heap put
> there by the farmer. My colleague was literally rolling over the ground
> laughing seeing me soiled up to my knee. My own laugh was rather
> sheepish... :-)

LOL
And that reminds me of...

No, enough is enough. You win. :-)

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On 9/23/2014 7:57 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 23-9-2014 12:04, Stephen wrote:
>> On 22/09/2014 08:48, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>
>>> That is interesting. In Christian terms the devil being the entity most
>>> to be feared
>>
>> In some parts of the Christian world it is God who is most to be feared.
>> ;-)
>>
>>
> Ah yes! The righteous, angry, vengeful, Old Testamentish God! I knew a
> few of them who bowed and cringed under his baleful stare :-)
>
I have always contended that they got the old saying dead wrong. If 
there was a devil, his greatest trick was convincing people that he and 
god where different entities.

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different from you and me, but when you add them all together you get 
this sort of huge raving maniac with national borders and an anthem."

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On 25-9-2014 5:50, Patrick Elliott wrote:
> On 9/23/2014 7:57 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 23-9-2014 12:04, Stephen wrote:
>>> On 22/09/2014 08:48, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That is interesting. In Christian terms the devil being the entity most
>>>> to be feared
>>>
>>> In some parts of the Christian world it is God who is most to be feared.
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>>
>> Ah yes! The righteous, angry, vengeful, Old Testamentish God! I knew a
>> few of them who bowed and cringed under his baleful stare :-)
>>
> I have always contended that they got the old saying dead wrong. If
> there was a devil, his greatest trick was convincing people that he and
> god where different entities.
>
Well, you may not be wrong :-) In fact in some religions both are 
different aspects of the same entity.

Thomas

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On 25/09/2014 08:28, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 25-9-2014 5:50, Patrick Elliott wrote:
>> On 9/23/2014 7:57 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>> On 23-9-2014 12:04, Stephen wrote:
>>>> On 22/09/2014 08:48, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> That is interesting. In Christian terms the devil being the entity
>>>>> most
>>>>> to be feared
>>>>
>>>> In some parts of the Christian world it is God who is most to be
>>>> feared.
>>>> ;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Ah yes! The righteous, angry, vengeful, Old Testamentish God! I knew a
>>> few of them who bowed and cringed under his baleful stare :-)
>>>
>> I have always contended that they got the old saying dead wrong. If
>> there was a devil, his greatest trick was convincing people that he and
>> god where different entities.
>>
> Well, you may not be wrong :-) In fact in some religions both are
> different aspects of the same entity.
>

And if the Devil conquered God and took his place. Who would be able to 
tell the difference?


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     Stephen

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On 25-9-2014 10:22, Stephen wrote:
> On 25/09/2014 08:28, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 25-9-2014 5:50, Patrick Elliott wrote:
>>> On 9/23/2014 7:57 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>> On 23-9-2014 12:04, Stephen wrote:
>>>>> On 22/09/2014 08:48, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is interesting. In Christian terms the devil being the entity
>>>>>> most
>>>>>> to be feared
>>>>>
>>>>> In some parts of the Christian world it is God who is most to be
>>>>> feared.
>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Ah yes! The righteous, angry, vengeful, Old Testamentish God! I knew a
>>>> few of them who bowed and cringed under his baleful stare :-)
>>>>
>>> I have always contended that they got the old saying dead wrong. If
>>> there was a devil, his greatest trick was convincing people that he and
>>> god where different entities.
>>>
>> Well, you may not be wrong :-) In fact in some religions both are
>> different aspects of the same entity.
>>
>
> And if the Devil conquered God and took his place. Who would be able to
> tell the difference?
>
>
Indeed. A certain form of Manichaeism is essential to distinguish good 
from evil (what is good? what is evil?)

Thomas

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On 25/09/2014 12:05, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 25-9-2014 10:22, Stephen wrote:

>>
>> And if the Devil conquered God and took his place. Who would be able to
>> tell the difference?
>>
>>
> Indeed. A certain form of Manichaeism is essential to distinguish good
> from evil (what is good? what is evil?)
>
>
Deep thoughts Thomas.
Next we will be counting angels on pinheads. ;-)


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On 25-9-2014 14:18, Stephen wrote:
> On 25/09/2014 12:05, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 25-9-2014 10:22, Stephen wrote:
>
>>>
>>> And if the Devil conquered God and took his place. Who would be able to
>>> tell the difference?
>>>
>>>
>> Indeed. A certain form of Manichaeism is essential to distinguish good
>> from evil (what is good? what is evil?)
>>
>>
> Deep thoughts Thomas.
> Next we will be counting angels on pinheads. ;-)
>
>
I would be even more fascinated by the question: Can there be as many 
devils on a pinhead? or more? or less?

Thomas

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On 25/09/2014 15:09, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 25-9-2014 14:18, Stephen wrote:
>> On 25/09/2014 12:05, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>> On 25-9-2014 10:22, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> And if the Devil conquered God and took his place. Who would be able to
>>>> tell the difference?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Indeed. A certain form of Manichaeism is essential to distinguish good
>>> from evil (what is good? what is evil?)
>>>
>>>
>> Deep thoughts Thomas.
>> Next we will be counting angels on pinheads. ;-)
>>
>>
> I would be even more fascinated by the question: Can there be as many
> devils on a pinhead? or more? or less?
>
> Thomas
>
You don't catch me as easy as that.

Get thee behind me... ;-)

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