On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 00:43:44 +0200, clipka wrote:

> Pretty glad the electorate didn't fall for *that*, even though I'm not
>> very happy with Obama's stand on intellectual property and privacy
>> issues.  Right now, neither party is making me very happy.
> 
> I never got the hang of parties anyway... all the loud music and
> alcohol...
> 
> (strolls out the garden door with a soft drink)

That sounds like a good option.  Though I don't have a garden door, I do 
have a balcony door.  And a soft drink.  And a laptop.  I could grab a 
table and sit outside and work this afternoon.  Hmmm.

Jim



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On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 01:19:55 +0200, clipka wrote:

> Actually, reading Stephen's posting more carefully: Maybe no. Germany
> /has/ more churches than hospitals, but whether more /new/
> churches are being built than hospitals is difficult to tell.

Hmm, fair point.

I think right now in the Seattle area, though, there aren't any new 
hospitals being built, but I'd be surprised if there weren't any new 
churches being built.

Jim
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Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> Well, there are a lot of things that didn't become an issue for the 
> general public, partly because Romney wouldn't really talk about what he 
> believes or what his church practices.  I may not have liked him as a 
> candidate or as a person, but I can respect him for saying "that's not 
> what this election is about" and refusing to talk about his faith.  If he 
> had been elected, I actually think he would have not had his faith be 
> front and center, because he didn't want it in the spotlight.  He 
> considered it to be a very personal thing, and not relevant to his policy 
> choices.

I really have to wonder if he did that honestly, or because he (or his
advisors) thought that it would be better to not openly discuss his
beliefs because it would drive voters away...

> But there's still no way I would have voted for him.  But I do wish more 
> candidates would say "you know what?  My beliefs are not your business, 
> they're mine." - and then left it at that, and let their actions rather 
> than their beliefs (or perceptions about their beliefs) be what they were 
> judged on by the electorate.

That would probably be the best, but then, perhaps people would vote for
the one candidate who praises God all the time?

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On 26/07/2014 00:31, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 01:19:55 +0200, clipka wrote:
>
>> Actually, reading Stephen's posting more carefully: Maybe no. Germany
>> /has/ more churches than hospitals, but whether more /new/
>> churches are being built than hospitals is difficult to tell.
>
> Hmm, fair point.
>
> I think right now in the Seattle area, though, there aren't any new
> hospitals being built, but I'd be surprised if there weren't any new
> churches being built.
>
> Jim
>

As you know it was also a metaphor.
Churches, hospitals. Apples, oranges.

Hospitals need to be centralised to share the expensive machinery that 
goes Beep!
Churches serve smaller communities, except for cathedrals and the like.

Religion is the pillar of a lot of peoples lives. And a big distraction. 
IMO they have their priorities wrong.
In the UK the established churches are loosing influence with quite a 
few buildings being de-sanctified and sold off. To become temples to 
those other gods, food and drink. Hospitals are lurching from one crises 
to the next. Almost as if it (NHS) is being decommissioned. And to be 
sold off the the Temple of Mammon.
Bitter! Moi?

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     Stephen

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Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> To become temples to those other gods, food and drink.

I don't know if you wrote that seriously or as sarcasm (your writing
style in this thread really is ambiguous, I must say), but in later
years I have become annoyed at the section of Christianity that uses
the term "god" as a derogatory term for people's hobbies or other
activities.

It's dismissive, disrespectful and derogatory. It's belittling people's
hobbies and, basically, putting one's own beliefs on a pedestal, above
other people's. It's presumptuous and self-righteous. It annoys me quite
a lot.

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On 26-7-2014 0:05, Stephen wrote:
> On 25/07/2014 22:55, Doctor John wrote:
>> On 25/07/14 22:52, Stephen wrote:
>>> But strangely  enough when I let it be known that I was Obeah (Juju).
>>> Life got simpler and I became Uncle Stephen. o_O
>>>
>>>
>>
>> John (sacrifices a black cockerel to Uncle Stephen)
>>
> Goats! I prefer goats.
> (There is more meat on them and I like goat curry.)
>

And so starts corruption... down the slippery road to hell.

Thomas

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On 26/07/2014 08:36, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> And so starts corruption... down the slippery road to hell.

A bit late for that. ;-)

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     Stephen

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On 26/07/2014 08:21, Warp wrote:
> Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>> To become temples to those other gods, food and drink.
>
> I don't know if you wrote that seriously or as sarcasm (your writing
> style in this thread really is ambiguous, I must say),


Every now and again I will try to give extra meaning to a sentence.
It was a juxtaposition of religion and our state run health service. It 
is the sort of thing that people who like English like, to do. I am sure 
most peoples do it. Another clue is the capitalisation. God <> god.

I like Irony as well, much more than sarcasm. The line about Churches 
and Hospitals was irony.

(Note: In the above sentences. Irony is capitalised thus personifying 
her. Which itself is a hidden meaning going back to before Christianity.)

> but in later
> years I have become annoyed at the section of Christianity that uses
> the term "god" as a derogatory term for people's hobbies or other
> activities.
>

I just get annoyed at the ones who open their mouths.

> It's dismissive, disrespectful and derogatory. It's belittling people's
> hobbies and, basically, putting one's own beliefs on a pedestal, above
> other people's. It's presumptuous and self-righteous. It annoys me quite
> a lot.
>
Only if you let it annoy you, surely?
I'm not being dismissive. I don't think that you should let nigglers get 
under your skin. It is a form of Juju that gives them a righteous feeling.

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     Stephen

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On 26-7-2014 9:43, Stephen wrote:
> On 26/07/2014 08:36, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> And so starts corruption... down the slippery road to hell.
>
> A bit late for that. ;-)
>

You had your curry then?

Thomas

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On 25/07/2014 11:45 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> Go to Google maps and put in (for example) "Hospitals in London, United
> Kingdom", and "Churches in London, United Kingdom".
>
> Compare the number of dots on the map.

Surely this only indicates that we *have built* more churches than 
hospitals, but than we *are building* more churches than hospitals...

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