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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Oh God, WHY?
Date: 6 Nov 2013 15:49:02
Message: <527aab3e$1@news.povray.org>
On 06/11/2013 08:27 PM, Doctor John wrote:
> I don't know why I'm writing this here but I've just witnessed a
> suicide. A lady threw herself under a train at Pimlico station.
>
> I'm a little bit shaken, she's dead and the driver will be traumatised
> for the rest of his career.
>
> Pray for her and the driver. I can cope

Jesus, that's just harsh, man...


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Oh God, WHY?
Date: 6 Nov 2013 18:06:30
Message: <527acb76$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 06 Nov 2013 20:27:33 +0000, Doctor John wrote:

>  I can cope

Egads, what a horrible thing to be witness to.  Take care, John.

Jim


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Oh God, WHY?
Date: 6 Nov 2013 19:42:47
Message: <527ae207@news.povray.org>
On 06/11/13 23:06, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Nov 2013 20:27:33 +0000, Doctor John wrote:
> 
>>  I can cope
> 
> Egads, what a horrible thing to be witness to.  Take care, John.
> 
> Jim
> 

FWIW Jim, I'm sitting in my study and listening to baroque chamber
music. At least my hands have stopped shaking.

Tomorrow, some flowers on the place she was last alive.

John
-- 
Protect the Earth
It was not given to you by your parents
You hold it in trust for your children


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Oh God, WHY?
Date: 6 Nov 2013 20:00:38
Message: <527ae636$1@news.povray.org>
On 06/11/13 20:49, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> On 06/11/2013 08:27 PM, Doctor John wrote:
>> I don't know why I'm writing this here but I've just witnessed a
>> suicide. A lady threw herself under a train at Pimlico station.
>>
>> I'm a little bit shaken, she's dead and the driver will be traumatised
>> for the rest of his career.
>>
>> Pray for her and the driver. I can cope
> 
> Jesus, that's just harsh, man...

Not good, not good

John
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It was not given to you by your parents
You hold it in trust for your children


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Oh God, WHY?
Date: 7 Nov 2013 01:45:09
Message: <527b36f5$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 00:42:59 +0000, Doctor John wrote:

> FWIW Jim, I'm sitting in my study and listening to baroque chamber
> music. At least my hands have stopped shaking.

That's good.  It's OK if you /can't/ cope, too - you probably are/were 
still in shock.
 
> Tomorrow, some flowers on the place she was last alive.

That seems a good idea.  If you have trouble, please talk to someone.

Jim


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Oh God, WHY?
Date: 7 Nov 2013 03:14:57
Message: <527b4c01$1@news.povray.org>
On 6-11-2013 21:27, Doctor John wrote:
> I don't know why I'm writing this here but I've just witnessed a
> suicide. A lady threw herself under a train at Pimlico station.
>
That is terribly sad. I witnessed the same about 30 years ago. I noticed 
her before because of her agitated behaviour, but what do you know? 
Then, when she jumped, in front of my eyes at less than 10 m, for a 
short second, I thought: "Oh, she needs to cross to the other platform". 
The mind refuses to accept the evidence.

You know John, it remains an image branded on your retina for the rest 
of your life. I wonder how drivers cope with this. Apparently they are 
confronted quite often to such experiences, at least in some areas I am 
told.

Thomas


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Oh God, WHY?
Date: 7 Nov 2013 03:15:50
Message: <527b4c36$1@news.povray.org>
>> Tomorrow, some flowers on the place she was last alive.
>
> That seems a good idea.  If you have trouble, please talk to someone.

If she had done that... well, you know where I'm going with this.


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Oh God, WHY?
Date: 7 Nov 2013 06:22:00
Message: <527b77d8$1@news.povray.org>
On 07/11/13 08:14, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> That is terribly sad. I witnessed the same about 30 years ago. I noticed
> her before because of her agitated behaviour, but what do you know?
> Then, when she jumped, in front of my eyes at less than 10 m, for a
> short second, I thought: "Oh, she needs to cross to the other platform".
> The mind refuses to accept the evidence.
> 

The strange thing is that now, 15 hours later, I can't accurately
remember the actual jump. A step forward, yes, but then its all blank
until the train stopped halfway down the platform. I probably thought
she was trying to be first on the train so she would have a better
chance of getting a seat.
There were probably another 20 people on the platform and no-one said a
word.

> You know John, it remains an image branded on your retina for the rest
> of your life. I wonder how drivers cope with this. Apparently they are
> confronted quite often to such experiences, at least in some areas I am
> told.

As I said, pray for the driver.

John
-- 
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You hold it in trust for your children


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Oh God, WHY?
Date: 7 Nov 2013 06:25:21
Message: <527b78a1$1@news.povray.org>
On 07/11/13 06:45, Jim Henderson wrote:
>  
>> Tomorrow, some flowers on the place she was last alive.
> 
> That seems a good idea.  If you have trouble, please talk to someone.
> 
> Jim
> 

My next-door neighbour is a retired psychologist. I shall probably have
a chat with her within the next day or so.

John
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Protect the Earth
It was not given to you by your parents
You hold it in trust for your children


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Oh God, WHY?
Date: 7 Nov 2013 06:33:09
Message: <527b7a75$1@news.povray.org>
On 07/11/13 08:15, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>>> Tomorrow, some flowers on the place she was last alive.
>>
>> That seems a good idea.  If you have trouble, please talk to someone.
> 
> If she had done that... well, you know where I'm going with this.

In the words of Pink Floyd on The Division Bell:

"There's a silence surrounding me I can't seem to think straight
I'll sit in the corner
No one can bother me
I think I should speak now (Why won't you talk to me)
I can't seem to speak now (You never talk to me)
My words won't come out right (What are you thinking)
I feel like I'm drowning (What are you feeling)
I'm feeling weak now (Why won't you talk to me) But I can't show my
weakness (You never talk to me)
I sometimes wonder (What are you thinking)
Where do we go from here (What are you feeling)
It doesn't have to be like this
All we need to do is make sure we keep talking (Why won't you talk to me)
I feel like I'm drowning (You never talk to me)
You know I can't breathe now (What are you thinking)
We're going nowhere (What are you feeling)
We're going nowhere (Why won't you talk to me)
(You never talk to me) (What are you thinking) (Where do we go from here)
It doesn't have to be like this
All we need to do is make sure we keep talking"

... I don't mean send a text. Face to face is the only way.

John
-- 
Protect the Earth
It was not given to you by your parents
You hold it in trust for your children


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