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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Hell has officially frozen over
Date: 19 Jul 2013 16:21:59
Message: <51e99fe7$1@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 21:19:26 +0100, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:

>>> Fun fact: For three months the estate agent has been promising me that
>>> the contract would appear in the next day or so. Every time a
>>> difference excuse as to why it hasn't happened yet, but "it's fixed
>>> now". On Monday my mother phoned them and suggested that I might pull
>>> out of the deal. By Friday of the same week, the contract had
>>> appeared.
>>
>> Sounds like the tactic your mother used is something to learn from. ;)
> 
> It's astonishingly how quickly people can make stuff happen if they
> think there's money involved...

More accurately, if they think they're going to lose money. ;)

But yes, what your mother did is something to keep in mind.  They want 
you to continue to be a customer, and if you decide that they're wasting 
your time and are going to leave, if there's enough money in it for them 
to react in a way other than "OK, see'ya", they'll get things moving.

There are always plenty of estate agents and solicitors around, so that's 
a tactic that can work well in cases like this.

Jim


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Hell has officially frozen over
Date: 19 Jul 2013 16:35:28
Message: <51e9a310@news.povray.org>
Orchid Win7 v1 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> In fairness, the "printer's point" is one of those obscure measurements 
> which is only used in one specific field - much like the Troy ounce, the 
> carat, or the furlong...

Are barrels used for anything else than oil?

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Hell has officially frozen over
Date: 19 Jul 2013 17:00:37
Message: <51e9a8f5$1@news.povray.org>
On 19/07/2013 8:45 PM, clipka wrote:
>
> BTW, does anyone outside the world of printed circuit board design ever
> use the measurement "mil"?

I've never used it.
I have used Mils and thought that was generic British for I'm working in 
that foreign stuff.

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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Hell has officially frozen over
Date: 19 Jul 2013 17:15:39
Message: <51e9ac7b$1@news.povray.org>
On 19/07/2013 09:35 PM, Warp wrote:
> Orchid Win7 v1<voi### [at] devnull>  wrote:
>> In fairness, the "printer's point" is one of those obscure measurements
>> which is only used in one specific field - much like the Troy ounce, the
>> carat, or the furlong...
>
> Are barrels used for anything else than oil?

According to Wikipedia, it also measures beer, cornmeal, Portland 
cement, sugar, flour, lime and cranberries.

Note also that ALL of these "barrels" are standardised BUT COMPLETELY 
UNRELATED sizes. (!!)

(That is, a "barrel" of flour is utterly unrelated to the weight or 
volume or a "barrel" of cement.)

So much for weird historical units...


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Hell has officially frozen over
Date: 19 Jul 2013 17:33:53
Message: <51e9b0c1$1@news.povray.org>
On 19/07/2013 11:15 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>
> According to Wikipedia, it also measures beer, cornmeal, Portland
> cement, sugar, flour, lime and cranberries.

"Also" is a good word. It means that my vague memory is correct. Phew!

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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Hell has officially frozen over
Date: 19 Jul 2013 17:48:10
Message: <51e9b41a$1@news.povray.org>
> According to Wikipedia, it also measures beer, cornmeal, Portland
> cement, sugar, flour, lime and cranberries.

I should perhaps clarify that it's "lime" as in calcium hydroxide, not 
as in the fruit. (How would THAT work?? Then again, cranberries...)


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Hell has officially frozen over
Date: 19 Jul 2013 17:55:02
Message: <51e9b5b6$1@news.povray.org>
On 19/07/2013 11:48 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>> According to Wikipedia, it also measures beer, cornmeal, Portland
>> cement, sugar, flour, lime and cranberries.
>
> I should perhaps clarify that it's "lime" as in calcium hydroxide, not
> as in the fruit. (How would THAT work?? Then again, cranberries...)

Do you have any idea why Americans call us Limeys?

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Regards
     Stephen


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Hell has officially frozen over
Date: 19 Jul 2013 17:57:22
Message: <51e9b642@news.povray.org>
Am 19.07.2013 23:00, schrieb Stephen:
> On 19/07/2013 8:45 PM, clipka wrote:
>>
>> BTW, does anyone outside the world of printed circuit board design ever
>> use the measurement "mil"?
>
> I've never used it.
> I have used Mils and thought that was generic British for I'm working in
> that foreign stuff.

That "mil" I'm speaking of (plural "mils", but I've never encountered 
that in the PCB layout software I'm using) apparently is American 
English for "thou".


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Hell has officially frozen over
Date: 19 Jul 2013 18:09:40
Message: <51e9b924$1@news.povray.org>
Am 19.07.2013 23:55, schrieb Stephen:
> On 19/07/2013 11:48 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>>> According to Wikipedia, it also measures beer, cornmeal, Portland
>>> cement, sugar, flour, lime and cranberries.
>>
>> I should perhaps clarify that it's "lime" as in calcium hydroxide, not
>> as in the fruit. (How would THAT work?? Then again, cranberries...)
>
> Do you have any idea why Americans call us Limeys?

Because (or so claims Wikipedia) your forefathers, when going to sea, 
added lemon or lime juice to their grog to prevent scurvy.

Germans used Sauerkraut for the same purpose (or so I've heard tell), 
hence the Americans calling us Krauts.

Not sure what the Americans used themselves; I must presume they were 
just too plain stupid to do anything about it :-P


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Hell has officially frozen over
Date: 19 Jul 2013 18:25:39
Message: <51e9bce3$1@news.povray.org>
On 19/07/2013 11:57 PM, clipka wrote:
>
> That "mil" I'm speaking of (plural "mils", but I've never encountered
> that in the PCB layout software I'm using) apparently is American
> English for "thou".

It rings a bell but I've never used it myself. But then I worked in 
manufacturing. PCB's were either bought in to assemble or to fit in a 
machine. Not even systems, some of them.

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Regards
     Stephen


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