On 22/10/2012 10:24 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> Clearly, you don't have enough American tourists.;)

Please don't send any more of the usual suspects from your state.

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Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> And some customers would think it insulting and outrageous to have their 
> bag searched, as if they were being accused of committing a crime and 
> having to prove their innocence (which in theory is presumed in the US).

In Finland (and probably in many other countries) your ID has to be
checked whenever you pay a purchase in excess of 50 euros with a debit
or credit card (even if you know the correct pin number.) This is, of
course, to deter stolen cards from being used to make big purchases.
(I'm not sure if this is by law or stipulated by the card issuers, but
it's always enforced.)

Some idiots get all offended when the clerk asks for their ID. Like if it
was an insult, a suggestion that they might be using a stolen card (even
though the exact same rule is applied to everyone.)

The day they get their card stolen they will be thankful that stores check
IDs for big purchases.

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On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:58:00 -0400, Warp wrote:

> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> And some customers would think it insulting and outrageous to have
>> their bag searched, as if they were being accused of committing a crime
>> and having to prove their innocence (which in theory is presumed in the
>> US).
> 
> In Finland (and probably in many other countries) your ID has to be
> checked whenever you pay a purchase in excess of 50 euros with a debit
> or credit card (even if you know the correct pin number.) This is, of
> course, to deter stolen cards from being used to make big purchases.
> (I'm not sure if this is by law or stipulated by the card issuers, but
> it's always enforced.)
> 
> Some idiots get all offended when the clerk asks for their ID. Like if
> it was an insult, a suggestion that they might be using a stolen card
> (even though the exact same rule is applied to everyone.)
> 
> The day they get their card stolen they will be thankful that stores
> check IDs for big purchases.

See, that doesn't happen in the US - and asking for ID on large purchases 
would be considered highly insulting by many people.

In fact, on the back of all my cards, I have written in indelible marker 
"ASK FOR ID", and it's amazing how few places actually ask even when the 
signature so clearly doesn't match (as I don't sign my card, I print that 
in block letters in the signature space).

Whenever a merchant does ask for ID, I thank them for doing so. :)

A few places that we frequent note it and if the cashier knows us, 
they'll say something like "I'd ask, but you're in here all the time and 
I know it's you".  That works for me as well (as the staff usually is 
well known to us).

Jim

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On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:40:45 +0100, Stephen wrote:

> On 22/10/2012 10:24 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> Clearly, you don't have enough American tourists.;)
> 
> Please don't send any more of the usual suspects from your state.

Hmmm, maybe I should pull a Rob McKenna and offer to keep them here for a 
fee. ;)

Jim

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On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:38:14 +0100, Stephen wrote:

> On 22/10/2012 10:25 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:14:57 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> On 22/10/2012 5:16 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>> That, however, is sometimes true.  Parking spaces are generally part
>>>> of the shop property,
>>>
>>> I will say one thing about parking spaces in America, from my
>>> experience. There is enough space to park and open your doors on both
>>> sides. In the UK you sometimes have to do a snake dance to get in and
>>> out.
>>
>> I need to visit the parts of America you have, because I find usually
>> there's some idiot with a gigantic 4x4/SUV/Hummer who's decided to park
>> right next to me, and invariably I need a can opener to get into my
>> car.
>>
>>
> Go south young man, go south.

I went to school in Florida, doesn't get much farther south than that. ;)

Jim

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On 23/10/2012 10:03 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:38:14 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>
>> Go south young man, go south.
>
> I went to school in Florida, doesn't get much farther south than that. ;)
>

No it doesn't and I found that the parking spots there were large enough 
for me to park in. I hired a Lincoln town car and drove to Key West, a 
drive I will always remember especially the bridges between the Keys.


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On 23/10/2012 10:03 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:40:45 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>
>> On 22/10/2012 10:24 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> Clearly, you don't have enough American tourists.;)
>>
>> Please don't send any more of the usual suspects from your state.
>
> Hmmm, maybe I should pull a Rob McKenna and offer to keep them here for a
> fee. ;)
>
Nope! I don't get it. Are you talking about his "Pillars of Hope" 
initiative? Stop trafficking Mormons?


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On 23/10/2012 10:02 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> See, that doesn't happen in the US - and asking for ID on large purchases
> would be considered highly insulting by many people.

But not carding someone for buying alcohol even if they are white haired 
and obviously past it. ;-)

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On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 22:21:50 +0100, Stephen wrote:

> On 23/10/2012 10:03 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:40:45 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> On 22/10/2012 10:24 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>> Clearly, you don't have enough American tourists.;)
>>>
>>> Please don't send any more of the usual suspects from your state.
>>
>> Hmmm, maybe I should pull a Rob McKenna and offer to keep them here for
>> a fee. ;)
>>
> Nope! I don't get it. Are you talking about his "Pillars of Hope"
> initiative? Stop trafficking Mormons?

Rob McKenna is a character in the Hitchhiker's Guide universe - the "rain 
god". ;)

Jim

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On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 22:24:26 +0100, Stephen wrote:

> On 23/10/2012 10:02 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> See, that doesn't happen in the US - and asking for ID on large
>> purchases would be considered highly insulting by many people.
> 
> But not carding someone for buying alcohol even if they are white haired
> and obviously past it. ;-)

That varies from establishment to establishment and state to state - one 
of the challenges of not having unified laws across the country is that 
one never knows (necessarily) what laws apply.

Here in Utah, I don't get carded any more.  My wife used to (even though 
she's 6 years older than me) until she stopped dying her hair.

At 21, my son didn't get carded many places because he could not shave 
for 30 minutes and have enough scruff to pass for 35.

Jim

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