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From: waggy
Subject: Re: Preparedness
Date: 21 Aug 2012 11:45:00
Message: <web.5033ac184efa98349726a3c10@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> >> (How
> >> do you get over the fact that your audience doesn't give a damn, for
> >> example?)
> >
> > If you're positively excited about it, you might have a chance.
>
> Perhaps. But it's difficult to come across as excited and passionate
> when you're terrified to your mortal core.

People have empathy. If you are excited and passionate, those in your audience
will feel some of that themselves. Having been in your situation themselves,
they will also understand your nervousness.

> > Best advice when standing in front of a crowd looking at you: Find a
> > friendly face. (And then talk to that face, or whatever other friendly
> > ones you can find. Don't address the audience - address the individual
> > people sitting there.)

One of the best things I learned at instructor school is that it is normal to be
nervous.

And indeed, after a few months of daily presentations, I found that I'd give a
lousy lecture if I didn't feel any butterflies at the lectern. Since then I
cultivate a small degree of stage fright, if necessary.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Preparedness
Date: 21 Aug 2012 12:31:56
Message: <5033b7fc$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 10:14:02 +0100, Invisible wrote:

> On 20/08/2012 04:19 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> Good luck with it, Andy.  Remember to breathe, and one of the best
>> pieces of advice I received from a friend of the family before my last
>> in-person interview was this:  keep your pants on. ;)
> 
> Marcus suggested the following: At least they can't string you up by
> your balls with a cheese wire.
> 
> That guy is slightly odd...
> 
>> The only people who are "interview experts" are people who can't keep a
>> job.
> 
> I didn't say they're good employees. I said they are more likely to get
> hired.

Maybe before they've had a bunch of short-term jobs, but employers tend 
to look at employment history, and being a 'job hopper' tends to rate a 
prospective employee much lower.  There are costs to bringing someone 
onboard that if they don't think they'll make that back, they're less 
likely to make the investment.

Jim


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Preparedness
Date: 21 Aug 2012 13:52:07
Message: <5033cac7$1@news.povray.org>
On 21/08/2012 10:17 AM, Invisible wrote:
> On 20/08/2012 06:59 PM, Stephen wrote:

>
> Heh, I remember that time I had to do a presentation at uni. You
> remember the old projectors with the light table and the mirror?

Oh! Yes.

> Do you know what it looks like when you puke on one? :-S
>

And you said that Marcus is slightly odd. :-P


> At any rate, it might be amusing to try to put together a presentation.
> I very much doubt I could do it in front of actual humans though. (How
> do you get over the fact that your audience doesn't give a damn, for
> example?)
>

That is a difficult one. I crack jokes and try to interact with the 
audience. But the thing I don't do is worry about it.
The first time I had to speak to an audience I was totally unprepared. 
It was at a union meeting and someone else was chairing it. He said "I 
cannot stay but Stevie will take over."
Bar Steward!
So I stood up and talked (or was that gabbled?)
One trick is to pick someone and talk to them but remember to change the 
person often.

>> Good luck and the best of British. :-)
>
> Heh, thanks.

In the present climate I don't know if that is the best wish. ;-)

-- 
Regards
     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Preparedness
Date: 21 Aug 2012 13:56:17
Message: <5033cbc1$1@news.povray.org>
On 21/08/2012 11:52 AM, Invisible wrote:

>> Best advice when standing in front of a crowd looking at you: Find a
>> friendly face. (And then talk to that face, or whatever other friendly
>> ones you can find. Don't address the audience - address the individual
>> people sitting there.)
>
> I don't know, man. If you're in a small gathering of people and you're
> having a private conversation with just one of them, that might come
> across as rude.

No it is not. If your audience have any feelings at all the person that 
you pick will help you by looking encouraging. They don't want you to 
fail they want to get the best out of you.

-- 
Regards
     Stephen


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Preparedness
Date: 22 Aug 2012 07:06:24
Message: <5034bd30$1@news.povray.org>
On 20/08/2012 03:44 PM, Invisible wrote:
> /Clearly/ I don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of
> getting this job.

Holy hell... I think they might actually hire me! o_O


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Preparedness
Date: 22 Aug 2012 07:13:26
Message: <5034bed6$1@news.povray.org>
Am 22.08.2012 13:06, schrieb Orchid Win7 v1:
> On 20/08/2012 03:44 PM, Invisible wrote:
>> /Clearly/ I don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of
>> getting this job.
>
> Holy hell... I think they might actually hire me! o_O

:-D


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Preparedness
Date: 22 Aug 2012 10:40:00
Message: <web.5034ee614efa9834352a052d0@news.povray.org>
Orchid Win7 v1 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> On 20/08/2012 03:44 PM, Invisible wrote:
> > /Clearly/ I don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of
> > getting this job.
>
> Holy hell... I think they might actually hire me! o_O



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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Preparedness
Date: 22 Aug 2012 12:35:41
Message: <50350a5d$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:06:23 +0100, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:

> On 20/08/2012 03:44 PM, Invisible wrote:
>> /Clearly/ I don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of getting this
>> job.
> 
> Holy hell... I think they might actually hire me! o_O

Sounds promising.  How about that - you have a shot at a job after being 
made redundant but before you actually finished up; I was made redundant 
16 months ago, and am still looking for full-time employment. :)

I may need to get some advice from you as the new "interview expert". ;)

Jim


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From: waggy
Subject: Re: Preparedness
Date: 22 Aug 2012 12:45:00
Message: <web.50350b8d4efa98349726a3c10@news.povray.org>
Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> On 20/08/2012 03:44 PM, Invisible wrote:
> > /Clearly/ I don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of
> > getting this job.
>
> Holy hell... I think they might actually hire me! o_O

Excellent news, indeed!


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Preparedness
Date: 22 Aug 2012 13:17:05
Message: <50351411@news.povray.org>
On 22/08/2012 05:35 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> I may need to get some advice from you as the new "interview expert". ;)

Ask me /after/ I actually /get/ the job. :-/


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