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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Old music
Date: 4 Jul 2012 16:35:01
Message: <web.4ff4a8a3a6810e5d352a052d0@news.povray.org>
Orchid Win7 v1 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> But essentially, I have no idea what was actually written in those
> centuries, so I'm not qualified to comment further.

fair enough.  You are not aware of so much stuff in your own time, knowing stuff
from just a few centuries ago is too much.  I can say, though, that Bach is from
that time frame.


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Old music
Date: 4 Jul 2012 16:53:16
Message: <4ff4ad3c$1@news.povray.org>
On 04/07/2012 09:33 PM, nemesis wrote:
> Orchid Win7 v1<voi### [at] devnull>  wrote:
>> But essentially, I have no idea what was actually written in those
>> centuries, so I'm not qualified to comment further.
>
> fair enough.  You are not aware of so much stuff in your own time, knowing stuff
> from just a few centuries ago is too much.  I can say, though, that Bach is from
> that time frame.

Interesting. I thought that Bach was far, far older than just a few 
centuries...


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Old music
Date: 4 Jul 2012 19:00:00
Message: <web.4ff4cab8a6810e5d773c9a3e0@news.povray.org>
Orchid Win7 v1 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> On 04/07/2012 09:33 PM, nemesis wrote:
> > Orchid Win7 v1<voi### [at] devnull>  wrote:
> >> But essentially, I have no idea what was actually written in those
> >> centuries, so I'm not qualified to comment further.
> >
> > fair enough.  You are not aware of so much stuff in your own time, knowing stuff
> > from just a few centuries ago is too much.  I can say, though, that Bach is from
> > that time frame.
>
> Interesting. I thought that Bach was far, far older than just a few
> centuries...

ಠ_ಠ


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Old music
Date: 4 Jul 2012 19:27:05
Message: <4ff4d149$1@news.povray.org>
Am 05.07.2012 00:59, schrieb nemesis:
> Orchid Win7 v1<voi### [at] devnull>  wrote:
>> On 04/07/2012 09:33 PM, nemesis wrote:
>>> Orchid Win7 v1<voi### [at] devnull>   wrote:
>>>> But essentially, I have no idea what was actually written in those
>>>> centuries, so I'm not qualified to comment further.
>>>
>>> fair enough.  You are not aware of so much stuff in your own time, knowing stuff
>>> from just a few centuries ago is too much.  I can say, though, that Bach is from
>>> that time frame.
>>
>> Interesting. I thought that Bach was far, far older than just a few
>> centuries...
>
> ಠ_ಠ

Unicode character insertion fail.


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Old music
Date: 4 Jul 2012 20:10:00
Message: <web.4ff4da86a6810e5d773c9a3e0@news.povray.org>
clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> Am 05.07.2012 00:59, schrieb nemesis:
> > Orchid Win7 v1<voi### [at] devnull>  wrote:
> >> On 04/07/2012 09:33 PM, nemesis wrote:
> >>> Orchid Win7 v1<voi### [at] devnull>   wrote:
> >>>> But essentially, I have no idea what was actually written in those
> >>>> centuries, so I'm not qualified to comment further.
> >>>
> >>> fair enough.  You are not aware of so much stuff in your own time, knowing stuff
> >>> from just a few centuries ago is too much.  I can say, though, that Bach is from
> >>> that time frame.
> >>
> >> Interesting. I thought that Bach was far, far older than just a few
> >> centuries...
> >
> > ಠ_ಠ
>
> Unicode character insertion fail.

yeah, blame the povray web access to newsgroups.

In any case, here's the char:

http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/0ca0/index.htm

it's from reddit :)


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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: Old music
Date: 11 Jul 2012 23:09:29
Message: <4ffe3fe9$1@news.povray.org>
On 7/3/2012 3:46 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:

> Somehow, I doubt that in 30, 40 or 50 years time, anybody will give a
> **** about This Is Love, Payphone, Don't Wake Me Up, Whistle, or Call My
> Name. That's today's UK Chart Top 40. I just looked it up. I haven't
> heard of a single one of these [which is no surprise], but then neither
> have you [which is kind of my point].

Every YouTube video for a song over 20 years old has at least one 
comment along the lines of, "We had such awesome music back then, now 
all we've got is Justin Bieber."

Every era has had its share of excellent acts that were remembered in 
later generations, and also its share (much larger) of briefly popular 
but ultimately forgettable stuff.

Past times have better reputations because the trash has been taken out.

Regards,
John


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Old music
Date: 12 Jul 2012 02:14:15
Message: <4ffe6b37@news.povray.org>
John VanSickle <evi### [at] kosherhotmailcom> wrote:
> Every YouTube video for a song over 20 years old has at least one 
> comment along the lines of, "We had such awesome music back then, now 
> all we've got is Justin Bieber."

  Why do people hate him?

  Perhaps the best related comment I have seen was: "Freddie Mercury dressed
as a housewife is manlier than JB."

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Old music
Date: 12 Jul 2012 04:09:59
Message: <4ffe8657$1@news.povray.org>
On 12/07/2012 07:14 AM, Warp wrote:

>    Why do people hate him?
>
>    Perhaps the best related comment I have seen was: "Freddie Mercury dressed
> as a housewife is manlier than JB."

Then again, Freddie Mercury was one /hell/ of a man! That guy could pull 
anything off...


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Old music
Date: 12 Jul 2012 17:21:01
Message: <4fff3fbd$1@news.povray.org>
On 12/07/2012 9:10 AM, Invisible wrote:
> That guy could pull anything off...


Maybe that was the problem :-P

-- 
Regards
     Stephen


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Old music
Date: 13 Jul 2012 05:07:43
Message: <4fffe55f$1@news.povray.org>
On 03/07/2012 09:46 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> Take a trip:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAUINv61Jvc

I have personally seen these guys live. They don't look like this any 
more. (It was a long time ago!) They still sound pretty good though. 
There aren't many local bands who would have the nerve to put down their 
instruments and stand on stage singing big harmonies a cappella.

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb3AVT5kBIo

Same guys, singing Long Tall Girl. When I was at the Twinwood Glen 
Miller Festival a few years back, I heard not one but two different 
bands play this song - and I liked it both times.

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTy5iDYh9b8

1. I can't do that with my legs.

2. How the hell do you play bass so fast? It's a fretless instrument, 
and thus requires sub-millimetre finger precision.

3. People doing bizarre things with a double bass is a surprisingly 
common spectacle. They "ride" them, they climb on top of them, they play 
them upside down, and so forth. Not to mention twirling them during 
breaks...

4. PHIL Haley and his COMMENTS? Please...

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKHoEZgAb_k

I really like Matchbox. How many confederate flags can you see in this 
video? These guys sure know how to dress up - I'm not sure as WHAT though...

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEC-2_qCqeo

Possibly my favourite Matchbox song. But my, don't they look old all of 
a sudden? I also love how the entire audience are TOTALLY NOT INTO IT.

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8C4vNjDaSo

1. How have I never heard of these guys before this year? They're bloody 
FANTASTIC!

2. This is the first time I've seen what they look like. And they do 
look pretty terrifying, actually. The lead singer looks like a demented 
school headmaster. And the other guy appears to be having some kind of 
psychotic episode! o_O

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3q3eKVBuoo

Quoting one of the comments, "I loved these when I was 8. They scare 
the shit out of me now!"

I really love big vocal harmonies. And these guys play everything with 
such ENERGY...

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD4C9B4zV9Y

Apparently there once was a band called Rocky Sharpe & The Razors. Then 
they split up. Most of the band later became The Darts. The rest of them 
became Rocky Sharpe & The Replays.

I actually asked for this album as a filler, because I liked this one 
track. It turns out this isn't the best track by far (actually one of 
the less interesting ones), and the disk contains some real gems.

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LGFA3L61Lg

We sometimes dance to this in class, when Debbie wants something really 
fast. (It's way faster than you think it is!) I hated this track until I 
got to hear it properly - i.e., when I got the CD. Now I really like it. 
Especially the ending, which I'd never heard before...

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i15ALD6fsUU

Never heard this before until I started dancing. We often dance to this.

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywsESPu7eGs

This is also great to dance to. (Starting to see where I get all my 
music tips from?)

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4G_Aa47vfk

If this song doesn't get your party started, your guests are already 
dead. :-P

There's a dance we do to this song. It's very simple, but very 
energetic. And this track is actually, like, nearly 4 minutes long. It's 
become something of a ritual to see how many people can actually dance 
all the way to the end. It's not easy!

Mud also did several other wonderful songs, which I only discovered when 
I bought the album.

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzpWJx3I2DY

I heard this on the radio and just had to find out what the hell it was...

Just look at that photo. WTF do these humans look like?! O_O

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yHCBv7qdYE

I got the CD for Ballroom Blitz. (And Blockbuster.) But IMHO, *this* is 
the best track on the entire disk, by a mile.

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k679WKSwRE

Gotta love Dion. Shame all the recordings sound so old and grainy, 
because the dude can SING!

This song is one of our standard warmup tracks.

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMPi_iER9Qc

I've heard several versions of this song. The canonical version is Marty 
Wilde:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9AgioGirsM

There's also a really delicious version by Rocky Sharpe & The Replays:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMS8w-br_oI

On the final chorus, Mr Sharpe shuts up and the audience sing the chorus 
line. Each individual person probably sings slightly out of tune, but in 
average the probability distribution converges to perfect harmony. On 
top of that, half of them sing the line one way, and half sing the other 
way, generating a beautiful set of harmonies.

Even having said all that, nobody I've heard sings this song with quite 
such a mournful tone as Dion. It is, after all, a lament; why MUST I be 
a teenager in love?

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtINzvbYwY0

BEST. STROLLER. EVER.

End of discussion.

(In other news... One time I tried making two copies of this song, 
increasing the tempo 20%, and raising the pitch of one copy by an 
octave, and then playing to two together in unholy unison. I am I sick, 
sick individual.)

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2_HpPut4gA

This song is great to listen to, and ****ing impossible to sing! >_<

(It probably doesn't help that my voice doesn't go that high. But even 
so, some of those harmonies are really awkward to follow.)


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