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On 26/06/2012 09:37 PM, Warp wrote:
> If you like melodic guitar solos (rather than mindless shredding) you
> should try Satriani:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4fPv450OYM
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GfVbHLivXg
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0655gBAvRnA
Some talented guitar playing, certainly. Personally, it's not my thing.
Out of curiosity... how do you actually make a guitar sound like that? I
mean, when *I* try to play guitar, it sounds nothing like that. Almost
everybody can jam their fingers into the shape of a chord and scrub the
strings like a washboard, but playing a *melody* is another matter. I
can just about stumble through a few simple tunes, but it seems
impossibly difficult to keep all the strings muted...
> And for something more impressive:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz3JhKXJDTM
Would be more impressive if it didn't look mimed.
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On 26/06/2012 10:05 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gD1ff6NIKk
Hmm. I think he might have done this before...
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I don't like everything Pink Floyd have ever done. (Actually, I'm
hard-pressed to think of /any/ artist who has never done anything I
dislike...) I'm generally not a fan of their more recent, more
depressive stuff. However,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zijN2r3ZKI
This is really, really damned slick. YouTube does not do the dynamics
justice...
Damned if I'll ever write anything this good, nor perform it.
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 21:36:34 +0100, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> On 26/06/2012 10:05 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gD1ff6NIKk
>
> Hmm. I think he might have done this before...
Just once or twice. The earliest video is from '88 IIRC. I have it on
the album "Surfing with the Alien" (which this thread prompted me to
listen to again).
Jim
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> On 26/06/2012 09:37 PM, Warp wrote:
>
>> If you like melodic guitar solos (rather than mindless shredding) you
>> should try Satriani:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4fPv450OYM
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GfVbHLivXg
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0655gBAvRnA
>
> Some talented guitar playing, certainly. Personally, it's not my thing.
>
> Out of curiosity... how do you actually make a guitar sound like that? I
> mean, when *I* try to play guitar, it sounds nothing like that. Almost
> everybody can jam their fingers into the shape of a chord and scrub the
> strings like a washboard, but playing a *melody* is another matter. I
> can just about stumble through a few simple tunes, but it seems
> impossibly difficult to keep all the strings muted...
>
I can't play the drums, unless it's boom-tsch-boom-tsch-boom-tsch
because I can't get my arms to do two different things at the same time,
but that doesn't mean it's impossible.
And even then the pros will sometimes make little mistakes. Just listen
to Starway to Heaven and you'll hear Jimmy Page zipping his left-hand
fingers on the strings. So much so that I've seen .MID files of the
song with a "zip" track to reproduce it faithfully.
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Am 27.06.2012 22:34, schrieb Orchid Win7 v1:
> Out of curiosity... how do you actually make a guitar sound like that? I
> mean, when *I* try to play guitar, it sounds nothing like that. Almost
> everybody can jam their fingers into the shape of a chord and scrub the
> strings like a washboard, but playing a *melody* is another matter. I
> can just about stumble through a few simple tunes, but it seems
> impossibly difficult to keep all the strings muted...
It's all a matter of practice. In my imagination, the roadmap is as
follows: First you train chords until your left hand can go on
automatic, so that you can concentrate on your right hand work. Switch
from washboard strumming to simple fingerpicking patterns. Exercise
until your right-hand fingers can go on automatic as well (including
suitable pattern changes when you change chords). Now you can
concentrate on occasional variations, such as picking a note here and
there that's not in the regular chords. Exercise, and with enough
variations you suddenly have a melody. Muting is not always necessary,
as long as the strings sound in harmony, but of course with extra
training you can also train your left-hand fingers to gently touch the
strings in such a way that they go mute, rather than pressing them down
firmly as you'd normally do. Right hand can do some muting effects, too,
of course.
Keep in mind that it is absolutely /impossible/ to /consciously/ move
your fingers with the required speed, coordination and precision; your
cerebrum is much too slow and fuzzy for the job. You need to put your
cerebellum in control, and that means training, training and more training.
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On 06/28/2012 09:34 AM, Francois Labreque wrote:
> I can't get my arms to do two different things at the same time,
> but that doesn't mean it's impossible.
Hey what about playing guitar and harmonica at the same time. Now that's
GOT to be tough ... I can only think of a few people who can do that ...
well only one comes to mind (Neil Young) now that I'm trying to recall
... didn't Dylan do that as well?
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:21:41 -0400, James Holsenback wrote:
> On 06/28/2012 09:34 AM, Francois Labreque wrote:
>> I can't get my arms to do two different things at the same time,
>> but that doesn't mean it's impossible.
>
> Hey what about playing guitar and harmonica at the same time. Now that's
> GOT to be tough ... I can only think of a few people who can do that ...
> well only one comes to mind (Neil Young) now that I'm trying to recall
> ... didn't Dylan do that as well?
Yep. And Eric Idle did a parody of it in "Not the Messiah" that was
quite funny.
Jim
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On 28/06/2012 6:21 PM, James Holsenback wrote:
> Hey what about playing guitar and harmonica at the same time. Now that's
> GOT to be tough ... I can only think of a few people who can do that ...
> well only one comes to mind (Neil Young) now that I'm trying to recall
> ... didn't Dylan do that as well?
How about Don Partridge who got into the British charts in the late 60s.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bym6J_TCNTE
And when he passed away.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAVc9oxzoR0&feature=related
--
Regards
Stephen
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On 28/06/2012 06:21 PM, James Holsenback wrote:
> On 06/28/2012 09:34 AM, Francois Labreque wrote:
>> I can't get my arms to do two different things at the same time,
>> but that doesn't mean it's impossible.
>
> Hey what about playing guitar and harmonica at the same time. Now that's
> GOT to be tough ...
Why play just TWO instruments when you can play THREE? :-P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAg5KjnAhuU
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