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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: NCIS
Date: 30 Apr 2012 07:22:30
Message: <4f9e75f6@news.povray.org>
On 30/04/2012 12:17 PM, Invisible wrote:
>>
>> Someone who thinks a naval destroyer is a hula hoop with a nail in it?
>> :-)
>
> CANNOT UNSEE. >_<

Mu (無)

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     Stephen


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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: NCIS
Date: 22 May 2012 20:52:55
Message: <4fbc34e7@news.povray.org>
On 4/27/2012 4:14 AM, Invisible wrote:
> I'm a big fan of the TV series NCIS. But sometimes it really makes me
> laugh.
>
> For those that don't know, the series follows the exploits of a
> fictional team working for the US Navel Criminal Investigative Service.
> Considering it's a show about people who investigate murders and other
> violent crimes, it's actually surprisingly humorous. Naturally every
> investigation is different, and the guy who did it is never, ever who
> you think it was.
>
> The characters are pretty much what you'd expect:
>
> - There's the team leader, the intense, silent authority figure that
> everybody both fears and deeply respects. He has a strong sense of moral
> justice and can be guaranteed to always do what's right, regardless of
> what the rule book says. He can read people like a book, he knows how to
> make people talk, and he always figures it out before everybody else
> does. Being an older guy, he is completely inept with any technology
> more modern than a telephone.
>
> - There's the wildcard. The smug, annoying, arrogant self-important
> jerk. Always wisecracking, always quoting obscure movie references. He
> thinks he is The Big, Mr Big, The Cool Guy. And the ladies are always
> all over him - as he constantly reminds everybody, every three seconds.
> In short, he has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. And yet, everybody
> really likes him, for no defined reason.

I don't.

> - There's the obligatory computer nerd. He can crack any cipher, and
> hack any computer system. (Unless it doesn't suit the script writer for
> today's episode.) Naturally, the guy is a high-calibre wimp. Oh, he will
> tackle people to the ground. But somehow he manages to make even that
> look wimpy. And he's really easy to intimidate. (Although, there was
> that one episode... nevermind.)

And when he is temporarily reassigned to the cyberwarfare department, 
the other geeks call him boss.

> Also, something bothers me: I'm PRETTY SURE that if a suspect refuses to
> give you a DNA sample, then you CANNOT simply offer them a drink, and
> then lift their fingerprints and DNA from the glass afterwards. It
> strikes me that there must be some kind of LAW against that kind of
> thing. (Otherwise why would you even need consent in the first place?)

Well, sometimes you want a sample without him knowing that you got one. 
  Generally speaking, if the police don't need your consent, then 
cooperation is mandatory.  (Telling an Icelandic policeman that you 
won't be giving the blood sample he has requested results in you getting 
held down by as many policemen as it takes.  Or at least that's what 
they told US military servicemen who were assigned to Iceland in 1992.)

The silly one I saw was when a computer in the lab was being hacked. 
You could tell because windows kept opening up rapidly, JUST LIKE IN 
REAL LIFE!!!111!!1!1!!!  The Geek and the Lab Goth were both typing on 
the same keyboard trying to stop this.  (In a rare fit of accuracy, this 
did not work.)  The attack stopped when the Boss pulled the power cord 
on the machine.  (I would have pulled the network cable.)

Regards,
John


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: NCIS
Date: 23 May 2012 04:02:50
Message: <4fbc99aa@news.povray.org>
>> - There's the wildcard. The smug, annoying, arrogant self-important
>> jerk. Always wisecracking, always quoting obscure movie references. He
>> thinks he is The Big, Mr Big, The Cool Guy. And the ladies are always
>> all over him - as he constantly reminds everybody, every three seconds.
>> In short, he has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. And yet, everybody
>> really likes him, for no defined reason.
>
> I don't.

Me neither. He's the most unlikeable guy in the show.

>> - There's the obligatory computer nerd. He can crack any cipher, and
>> hack any computer system. (Unless it doesn't suit the script writer for
>> today's episode.) Naturally, the guy is a high-calibre wimp. Oh, he will
>> tackle people to the ground. But somehow he manages to make even that
>> look wimpy. And he's really easy to intimidate. (Although, there was
>> that one episode... nevermind.)
>
> And when he is temporarily reassigned to the cyberwarfare department,
> the other geeks call him boss.

Yeah, but that's probably just out of reverence for a guy who's a bigger 
nerd than they are.

>> Also, something bothers me: I'm PRETTY SURE that if a suspect refuses to
>> give you a DNA sample, then you CANNOT simply offer them a drink, and
>> then lift their fingerprints and DNA from the glass afterwards. It
>> strikes me that there must be some kind of LAW against that kind of
>> thing. (Otherwise why would you even need consent in the first place?)
>
> Well, sometimes you want a sample without him knowing that you got one.
> Generally speaking, if the police don't need your consent, then
> cooperation is mandatory. (Telling an Icelandic policeman that you won't
> be giving the blood sample he has requested results in you getting held
> down by as many policemen as it takes. Or at least that's what they told
> US military servicemen who were assigned to Iceland in 1992.)

Yeah, but not in the USA or the UK, AFAIK. Both of these countries 
require consent before collecting fingerprint or DNA evidence (although 
refusing might itself be considered suspicious).

> The silly one I saw was when a computer in the lab was being hacked. You
> could tell because windows kept opening up rapidly, JUST LIKE IN REAL
> LIFE!!!111!!1!1!!! The Geek and the Lab Goth were both typing on the
> same keyboard trying to stop this. (In a rare fit of accuracy, this did
> not work.) The attack stopped when the Boss pulled the power cord on the
> machine. (I would have pulled the network cable.)

I very much doubt that Gibbs knows the difference between a power cable 
and a network cable. And either way, it doesn't stop hostile code 
running on your system, it just stops the program's diabolical master 
from talking to it.

But yeah, it's pretty stupid all round. I blame this on the fact that 
99% of the population have NO IDEA how computers actually work...


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: NCIS
Date: 23 May 2012 04:05:40
Message: <4fbc9a54$1@news.povray.org>
> Sometimes I have to wonder though... Who is their scientific advisor?
> And do they know what they're talking about?

An even better question: How do they make the model dead people? 
Because, damn, those things look EXTREMELY REAL! o_O

They must have an entire department that just /makes/ dead bodies. 
Because they sure find a lot of them...


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: NCIS
Date: 23 May 2012 10:08:56
Message: <4fbcef78@news.povray.org>
John VanSickle <evi### [at] kosherhotmailcom> wrote:
> The silly one I saw was when a computer in the lab was being hacked. 
> You could tell because windows kept opening up rapidly, JUST LIKE IN 
> REAL LIFE!!!111!!1!1!!!  The Geek and the Lab Goth were both typing on 
> the same keyboard trying to stop this.  (In a rare fit of accuracy, this 
> did not work.)  The attack stopped when the Boss pulled the power cord 
> on the machine.  (I would have pulled the network cable.)

  In fact, pulling the plug may make things worse. If the hacking is done
to a server, then pulling the plug from a terminal isn't going to help
anything (it's unlikely that the server would be plugged in to a wall
socket right there in the lab). The only thing it achieves is to stop
the people using the terminal from trying to stop the hacking, until
the terminal is booted up again.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: NCIS
Date: 23 May 2012 10:21:27
Message: <4fbcf267@news.povray.org>
On 23/05/2012 03:08 PM, Warp wrote:

>    In fact, pulling the plug may make things worse. If the hacking is done
> to a server, then pulling the plug from a terminal isn't going to help
> anything (it's unlikely that the server would be plugged in to a wall
> socket right there in the lab). The only thing it achieves is to stop
> the people using the terminal from trying to stop the hacking, until
> the terminal is booted up again.

Yeah. If it's not Abbey's personal computer that's being hacked, 
shutting it down probably won't help. I hadn't even thought of that...


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: NCIS
Date: 26 May 2012 22:02:34
Message: <4fc18b3a$1@news.povray.org>
On 5/23/2012 7:08, Warp wrote:
>    In fact, pulling the plug may make things worse. If the hacking is done
> to a server, then pulling the plug from a terminal isn't going to help

In this particular case (which is so stupid it's infamous), one of them 
states it's a very targeted attack directly on that one computer.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "Oh no! We're out of code juice!"
   "Don't panic. There's beans and filters
    in the cabinet."


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: NCIS
Date: 26 May 2012 22:03:00
Message: <4fc18b54@news.povray.org>
On 5/23/2012 1:06, Invisible wrote:
> An even better question: How do they make the model dead people? Because,
> damn, those things look EXTREMELY REAL! o_O

I think it must be a blast being a special effects guy for Bones.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "Oh no! We're out of code juice!"
   "Don't panic. There's beans and filters
    in the cabinet."


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: NCIS
Date: 21 Jun 2012 04:54:23
Message: <4fe2e13f$1@news.povray.org>
On 27/04/2012 01:43 PM, scott wrote:
>> It's *very* improbable that an outside adversary would know
>> precisely what software your forensics lab runs.
>
> Actually, if they were wanting to attack you they would quite likely
> know precisely what software was running.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet

Sure, a major world government trying to shut down a key military target 
could have access to that type of information.

A petty criminal who offed somebody in the street and then tried to 
write a virus to hide the crime? Are they /really/ going to know which 
government agency will be investigating them, let alone which lab will 
process the forensics? I DOUBT IT. :-P


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: NCIS
Date: 21 Jun 2012 04:57:29
Message: <4fe2e1f9$1@news.povray.org>
On 23/05/2012 09:06 AM, Invisible wrote:

> An even better question: How do they make the model dead people?
> Because, damn, those things look EXTREMELY REAL! o_O
>
> They must have an entire department that just /makes/ dead bodies.
> Because they sure find a lot of them...

I noticed one of the dead guys breathing the other day. Which suggests 
that at least that one particular guy was actually a live actor playing 
dead.

If anything, that's /more/ impressive! (Would explain why all the shots 
are cut so small though...)


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