On 4/13/2012 1:03, Invisible wrote:
> Then why is there no way of filing a complaint? Why do I have to dig through
> twenty five menu pages to get at an actual telephone number? Why is it so
> damned hard to contact them?

I clicked on the help button on the home page, then the "contact us", and I 
filled out the drop-down list of "payment problem", and clicked "call me", 
and got told they'd call me.

Given I've had them fix problems via email of exactly this "I didn't know it 
was going to do that" kind of thing.

> (I might also ask "why is the Internet so full of people being given the
> run-around by their customer service department", but I guess the answer is
> that /every/ large company has that...)

Everyone but Amazon, because Amazon Gets It, and realizes that if they 
aren't trustworthy, they have no business.

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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "Oh no! We're out of code juice!"
   "Don't panic. There's beans and filters
    in the cabinet."

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> Back to the subject, wouldn't you mind because:
> - driving in one shows that you are rich enough to afford one?
> - you assume that people find you more attractive if you drive one?
> - you really think that it is a good design?

For me none of the above, the main point is that it would be fun to 
drive.  I'd still find it fun if I was out on a nice twisty mountain 
road totally by myself and the car body was covered in brown cardboard.

Of course given the choice, I'd prefer something that is also nice to 
look at, I prefer the softer curves of something like a Ferrari F430, 
not too keen on convertible supercars :)

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Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> Stephen <mcavoys_at@aoldotcom> wrote:
> > http://www.compucars.co.uk/used-cars/ferrari/?o=cheap
>
>   I prefer this:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:LamborghiniAventadorJ.jpg
>
> --
>                                                           - Warp

I like the closed one better:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2012-03-07_Motorshow_Geneva_4608.JPG

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On 16/04/2012 01:39 AM, Darren New wrote:
> On 4/13/2012 0:49, Invisible wrote:
>> country. Or that it wasn't Amazon themselves selling it...)
>
> I've never known Amazon to sell something through a third party that
> wasn't marked that way. What was it, out of curiosity?

It was a shirt. Just an ordinary red shirt. I /assumed/ it was in 
Amazon's warehouse just down the road from me. But when I ordered it, 
they shipped it from South Korea. I had no idea they were going to do 
that. I certainly had no idea I was going to be charged 50% again for 
the import duty. Obviously if I'd known that, I wouldn't have bothered 
purchasing it.

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On 16-4-2012 20:08, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> On 16/04/2012 01:39 AM, Darren New wrote:
>> On 4/13/2012 0:49, Invisible wrote:
>>> country. Or that it wasn't Amazon themselves selling it...)
>>
>> I've never known Amazon to sell something through a third party that
>> wasn't marked that way. What was it, out of curiosity?
>
> It was a shirt. Just an ordinary red shirt. I /assumed/ it was in
> Amazon's warehouse just down the road from me. But when I ordered it,
> they shipped it from South Korea. I had no idea they were going to do
> that. I certainly had no idea I was going to be charged 50% again for
> the import duty. Obviously if I'd known that, I wouldn't have bothered
> purchasing it.

last year I had an interesting problem with thinkgeek. They do not take 
care of the taxes themselves, but they know how much it is and it is 
taken into account, so you know what you will be paying. Except that the 
invoice is in $ and I pay in €. They ship with UPS, so UPS has to do the 
custom things. Which is also easy, they know how much it is so they can 
convert. Here is the catch: between the day I ordered and the time they 
have to pay our government the conversion might change, so they need a 
temporary buffer and they might loose a bit, so they will have to charge 
you afterwards. In short they take a small financial risk and they want 
some payment for that. About 2% or so from the tax if I am not mistaken. 
I assume you see what is coming: there is a minimum amount of €10. So my 
actual order was about one cent wrong to their advantage and I had to 
pay €10 extra for two shirts because of some silly company rule of UPS.
Or at least this is what I could understand had happened when I mailed 
and phoned UPS later for an explanation.

-- 
tip: do not run in an unknown place when it is too dark to see the 
floor, unless you prefer to not use uppercase.

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