>> I tell you what, if somebody even managed to pull that off in the first
>> place, even if they only made one single usable CD, I'd still be pretty
>> impressed. :-D Yeah, that ain't gonna be cheap though. ;-)
>
> It's actually quite an interesting problem. What is the cheapest way to
> manufacture: a) 1 CD, b) 100 CDs, c) 10000 CDs, d) 1000000 CDs. You can
> do the same for cars, circuit boards, bikes, organs, whatever.

The cheapest was to manufacture 1 CD is obviously to pay somebody else 
to do it.

As far as I know, it's impossible to manufacture a CD in your basement. 
You need cleanroom conditions and equipment that can operate at 
literally microscopic tolerances. It's not like you can just buy that 
kind of thing off the shelf. Heck, just buying equipment for moulding 
plastic isn't exactly easy. And then you've got to buy the plastic. 
Sure, somebody somewhere must sell this stuff... good luck finding them!

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On 12/04/2012 05:28 PM, Darren New wrote:
> On 4/11/2012 6:05, Invisible wrote:
>> Currently I'm seriously ****ed off with Amazon. When you buy something
>> from
>> them and the price on screen is X, you expect to pay X, plus some
>> negligible
>> amount for postage. You to /not/ expect to pay 1.5 X.
>
> What was the increase? Postage?

Apparently the item was shipped from SOUTH KOREA. (!) Not saying that it 
was made in an underground sweatshop, but it *is* South Korea...

When I bought it, there was no indication that it was coming from 
another country, or that it wasn't actually being sold by Amazon.

> Did you buy from amazon, or from someone
> selling their stuff through amazon?

I really, *really* hate it that you can buy something on Amazon, and 
it's not actually being sold by Amazon. To me, this is fraud, and should 
not be allowed. It is /also/ fraud to sell second-hand items and claim 
that they are "new". Being in "nearly new condition" is not, and will 
never be, the same thing as being "new".

>> But hey, what can you do? It's not as if you can, I don't know, /file a
>> complaint/ or anything. Nor that they would even /care/ if you did...
>
> I think you underestimate amazon's customer service. They're one of the
> best in the business.

O RLY?

Then why is there no way of filing a complaint? Why do I have to dig 
through twenty five menu pages to get at an actual telephone number? Why 
is it so damned hard to contact them?

(I might also ask "why is the Internet so full of people being given the 
run-around by their customer service department", but I guess the answer 
is that /every/ large company has that...)

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>> It's actually quite an interesting problem. What is the cheapest way to
>> manufacture: a) 1 CD, b) 100 CDs, c) 10000 CDs, d) 1000000 CDs. You can
>> do the same for cars, circuit boards, bikes, organs, whatever.
>
> The cheapest was to manufacture 1 CD is obviously to pay somebody else
> to do it.

Sure, that's often the case for most things you only want 1 of.  But how 
would they actually make your 1 CD?  I guess they'd take a CDR and burn it.

> As far as I know, it's impossible to manufacture a CD in your basement.
> You need cleanroom conditions and equipment that can operate at
> literally microscopic tolerances.

Which if you're planning to make a million every day won't be a problem 
to arrange.

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>> The cheapest was to manufacture 1 CD is obviously to pay somebody else
>> to do it.
>
> Sure, that's often the case for most things you only want 1 of.

Definitely.

> But how
> would they actually make your 1 CD? I guess they'd take a CDR and burn it.

That's what I've read, yes. Most companies specialising in CD 
duplication use CD-R for low-volume stuff. You'd be mad not to.

>> As far as I know, it's impossible to manufacture a CD in your basement.
>> You need cleanroom conditions and equipment that can operate at
>> literally microscopic tolerances.
>
> Which if you're planning to make a million every day won't be a problem
> to arrange.

I'm sure you still can't fit it in your basement though. ;-)

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On 13/04/2012 8:55 AM, Invisible wrote:
> That's still quite a bit less than the £800,000 I was expecting to pay
> for the most basic entry-level Ferrari.

Go on treat yourself

http://www.compucars.co.uk/used-cars/ferrari/?o=cheap

-- 
Regards
     Stephen

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On 13/04/2012 10:24 AM, Stephen wrote:
> On 13/04/2012 8:55 AM, Invisible wrote:
>> That's still quite a bit less than the £800,000 I was expecting to pay
>> for the most basic entry-level Ferrari.
>
> Go on treat yourself
>
> http://www.compucars.co.uk/used-cars/ferrari/?o=cheap

That's still more money than I make in a year. Actually, more than I 
make in *two* years... Presumably the insurance is twice as much again.

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On 13/04/2012 11:16 AM, Invisible wrote:
> That's still more money than I make in a year. Actually, more than I
> make in *two* years...

Here we go, just the thing for you, then.
http://www.toysrus.co.uk/Toys-R-Us/Bikes-and-Rideons/Battery-Powered/Famosa-6V-Ferrari-430-Car%280068745%29

> Presumably the insurance is twice as much again.

Is that another one of your guesses?

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Regards
     Stephen

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On 13/04/2012 11:37 AM, Stephen wrote:
> On 13/04/2012 11:16 AM, Invisible wrote:
>> That's still more money than I make in a year. Actually, more than I
>> make in *two* years...
>
> Here we go, just the thing for you, then.
>
http://www.toysrus.co.uk/Toys-R-Us/Bikes-and-Rideons/Battery-Powered/Famosa-6V-Ferrari-430-Car%280068745%29

I love how that's a cheap lump of plastic, yet it's /still/ really 
expensive. ;-)

>> Presumably the insurance is twice as much again.
>
> Is that another one of your guesses?

Hell, it costs half a months' wages to insure my *current* car, and 
that's not even valuable...

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>> Is that another one of your guesses?
>
> Hell, it costs half a months' wages to insure my *current* car, and
> that's not even valuable...

I knew someone who had a new Ferrari, his insurance was £1200 a year. 
There again it probably depends on age and how many accidents you've had 
recently.

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On 13/04/2012 01:04 PM, scott wrote:
>>> Is that another one of your guesses?
>>
>> Hell, it costs half a months' wages to insure my *current* car, and
>> that's not even valuable...
>
> I knew someone who had a new Ferrari, his insurance was £1200 a year.

That's more than I make in a month, yeah.

> There again it probably depends on age and how many accidents you've had
> recently.

I'm guessing it might depend on which Ferrari and how old that is too?

What I do know is this: Last year, a lorry driver wandered into the side 
of my car. This year my insurance premium doubled. Protected no claims 
bonus? Yeah, it's *clearly* worth it. :-P

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