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On 04/01/2012 09:40 AM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> On 01/04/2012 01:42 PM, James Holsenback wrote:
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17576745
>
> So they're talking about allowing traffic analysis. No actual data
> content, just what you looked at and when.
>
> It's rather worrying that anyone "official enough" would be able to
> browse through any data they want without needing a warrant. But beyond
> that, I suspect whoever suggested this doesn't quite comprehend the
> volume of data we're talking about here. The daft thing is, the
> technically sophisticated criminals these measures are purportedly
> supposed to catch will easily get around them, so it affects only naive
> innocent citizens.
>
> I gather last time somebody proposed this, it didn't get very far due to
> massive opposition. I expect the same thing to happen with this one.
>
>> http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/12/31/statement-president-hr-1540
>>
>
> TL;DR.
>
>> http://www.fastcompany.com/1826121/employers-want-your-facebook-password-now
All this (the apparent trend) I find troubling.
> Some employers are arseholes. Don't work for them.
>
> If some employer wanted access to my personal data, I would simply
> refuse. If that means they don't hire me, that's their loss, not mine,
> IMHO.
Recently I applied for part time work at a local grocery ... walking
distance, and hey a little extra cash right! They wanted a saliva test
for heavens sake. I declined because I thought it was a bit extreme, and
(not to mention) an invasion of my privacy. There's a BIG disconnect
going on here! Average, normal ... or whatever you want to call them
folks are getting walked all over.
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Orchid Win7 v1 <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> I suspect whoever suggested this doesn't quite comprehend the
> volume of data we're talking about here.
If there's anything positive that can be fathomed about email spam,
it's that its sheer amount (it broke the 50% mark of all email traversing
the internet long time ago) twharts any kind of comprehensive automatic
traffic analysis of email (or at least makes it impractical and expensive).
--
- Warp
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On 01/04/2012 2:40 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> On 01/04/2012 01:42 PM, James Holsenback wrote:
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17576745
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>
> I gather last time somebody proposed this, it didn't get very far due to
> massive opposition. I expect the same thing to happen with this one.
Three hours after the article being posted there are ~ 1600 comments.
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Regards
Stephen
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On 4/1/2012 6:40 AM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>> http://www.fastcompany.com/1826121/employers-want-your-facebook-password-now
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>
> Some employers are arseholes. Don't work for them.
>
> If some employer wanted access to my personal data, I would simply
> refuse. If that means they don't hire me, that's their loss, not mine,
> IMHO.
Sadly, like the argument that American Libertarians fail to grasp, along
with Tea Partiers, and a lot of Republicans, when it comes to economics,
business practices, regulation, and buying politicians, the
***biggest*** problem with this idea is that it only works until
most/all of them are doing it.
The example I just used today was if the government wasn't allowed to
regulate carnivals, so every carnival had prizes booths that cheated
people, and it turned out that the number of the cheating just happened
to be 100% of them. Going to a different booth isn't going to work, nor
is going to a different carnival. But, according to the morons, the
"free market", whether you are a buyer, or the guy trying to find a job,
or you are worried someone might find that you read hustler, instead of
playboy (or just read either), is supposed to somehow fix this, without
someone else stepping in to stop them doing it.
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>
> Recently I applied for part time work at a local grocery ... walking
> distance, and hey a little extra cash right! They wanted a saliva test
> for heavens sake. I declined because I thought it was a bit extreme, and
> (not to mention) an invasion of my privacy. There's a BIG disconnect
> going on here! Average, normal ... or whatever you want to call them
> folks are getting walked all over.
In soviet Canuckistan, this is illegal. They can only do drug testing
ONCE you are employed and ONLY IF it pertains to your duties (e.g.
airline pilot, heavy machinery operator, etc...)
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On 02/04/2012 12:28 PM, Francois Labreque wrote:
>
> In soviet Canuckistan, this is illegal. They can only do drug testing
> ONCE you are employed and ONLY IF it pertains to your duties (e.g.
> airline pilot, heavy machinery operator, etc...)
But they are good at Curling as Jim will know. ;-)
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Stephen
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On 04/02/2012 09:07 AM, Stephen wrote:
> On 02/04/2012 12:28 PM, Francois Labreque wrote:
>>
>> In soviet Canuckistan, this is illegal. They can only do drug testing
>> ONCE you are employed and ONLY IF it pertains to your duties (e.g.
>> airline pilot, heavy machinery operator, etc...)
>
> But they are good at Curling as Jim will know. ;-)
>
LOL ... yeah! Just like shuffleboard only substitute ice and a rock ;-)
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On 02/04/2012 4:53 PM, James Holsenback wrote:
> On 04/02/2012 09:07 AM, Stephen wrote:
>> On 02/04/2012 12:28 PM, Francois Labreque wrote:
>>>
>>> In soviet Canuckistan, this is illegal. They can only do drug testing
>>> ONCE you are employed and ONLY IF it pertains to your duties (e.g.
>>> airline pilot, heavy machinery operator, etc...)
>>
>> But they are good at Curling as Jim will know. ;-)
>>
>
> LOL ... yeah! Just like shuffleboard only substitute ice and a rock ;-)
--
Regards
Stephen
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On 4/1/2012 6:40, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> suspect whoever suggested this doesn't quite comprehend the volume of data
> we're talking about here.
Uh, no, you realize all that traffic is already being examined and routed,
right? It's not like google doesn't have 3 to 5 copies of the entire
internet available in tenths of seconds to anyone in the world, you know?
It's only massive data if you don't automate it. That's why people in the
USA get peeved when the supreme court decides that police affixing a GPS
tracker to your car without telling you isn't any more intrusive than
actually following you around while you drive.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"Oh no! We're out of code juice!"
"Don't panic. There's beans and filters
in the cabinet."
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On 4/1/2012 8:43, Warp wrote:
> (it broke the 50% mark of all email traversing
> the internet long time ago)
It broke the 90% mark a long time ago.
> twharts any kind of comprehensive automatic
> traffic analysis of email (or at least makes it impractical and expensive).
Classifying spam isn't difficult. It's just that ISPs don't want to carry
10x as much email data as they need to, and it's hard to track down the source.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"Oh no! We're out of code juice!"
"Don't panic. There's beans and filters
in the cabinet."
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