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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Americans really are sue-happy...
Date: 20 Feb 2012 17:02:16
Message: <4f42c2e8$1@news.povray.org>
On 2/20/2012 11:51, andrel wrote:
> Technically he/she may decide that it is negligence, in real life it wasn't.

Running in front of a train going fast enough to pulp you and fling body 
parts all over the station? *I* would consider that a pretty negligent act.

> Here in the Netherlands it is not uncommon that the railway company or any
> other large company decides to pay even if they can technically not be
> blamed. Partly out of decency, partly because not doing so is bad publicity
> and conversely this is cheap and good publicity.

That happens here too.

> Probably it is indicative of the moral state of the USA that Amtrak did not
> do the decent thing and can get away with it. ;)

It can also be a matter of whether Amtrak wants to set the precedent that if 
you run in front of a train, it's Amtrak's fault for not stopping. I can see 
Amtrak fighting the lawsuit claiming it's their fault even *if* they still 
pay the medical bills out of decency.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   People tell me I am the counter-example.


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Americans really are sue-happy...
Date: 21 Feb 2012 03:29:50
Message: <4f4355fe$1@news.povray.org>
Am 20.02.2012 20:51, schrieb andrel:

>> Right. If you read, the court already decided it's a case of negilgence
>> on the part of the dead kid, and not on the part of amtrack.
>
> This is a case where I don't care what an USAsian judge decides. ;)
> Technically he/she may decide that it is negligence, in real life it
> wasn't.

Crossing railroad tracks without looking?

Indeed, that's not negligence - that's plain stupidity.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Americans really are sue-happy...
Date: 21 Feb 2012 04:14:24
Message: <4f436070@news.povray.org>
>>> Neither was the Boy Named Sue...
>>
>> Haha! Oh man... that was damned funny.
>
> You do know that's the name of a song, right?

I wasn't aware that it was anything /other/ than a rather humorous song.

> (I know it because my mom wanted to name her daughter "Sue", but she had
> two boys and no girls...)

My mother wanted to name me William, and my sister Wendy. We were only 
spared because W.C. would be a crappy set of initials to have...


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From: Le Forgeron
Subject: Re: Americans really are sue-happy...
Date: 21 Feb 2012 07:37:16
Message: <4f438ffc$1@news.povray.org>
Le 20/02/2012 19:36, Darren New a écrit :
> Say someone owns a house, and dies, and leaves it to you in their will.
> How do you take ownership? Answer: You go to the judge and get him to
> sign a deed on the dead person's behalf transferring the house into your
> ownership.

It's a bit different here. No judge. A notary.
The notary collects and applie the will, notify the state about the
taxes for the dead (within a six month delay to pay since the death),
and perform the writing of transferring the ownership (yet a few taxes
for that writing) once the taxes have been paid and heirs agrees.

Leaving a house in a will might be a curse, if you are a total stranger
the death-related taxes are about 60% of the evaluated price of the
house. Not including the 7% of writing for land-property. You can opt to
try to have the notary sells the house at the evaluated price, but the
delay of 6 months is playing against you...that's really only 2 months
to find a buyer (due to the delay the buyer get...) Assume you sell at
75% of the evaluated price (unless you get a mortgage to pay the tax ?
strange idea!), remove the taxes and a few needed diagnostic's bills...
lucky if something remains. (and it take you time)


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Americans really are sue-happy...
Date: 21 Feb 2012 13:37:02
Message: <4f43e44e$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:14:59 +0000, Invisible wrote:

>>>> Neither was the Boy Named Sue...
>>>
>>> Haha! Oh man... that was damned funny.
>>
>> You do know that's the name of a song, right?
> 
> I wasn't aware that it was anything /other/ than a rather humorous song.

Well, given your history here, you never know. ;)

>> (I know it because my mom wanted to name her daughter "Sue", but she
>> had two boys and no girls...)
> 
> My mother wanted to name me William, and my sister Wendy. We were only
> spared because W.C. would be a crappy set of initials to have...

I see what you did there. ;)

Jim


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Americans really are sue-happy...
Date: 21 Feb 2012 15:38:55
Message: <4F4400E2.1080500@gmail.com>
On 20-2-2012 21:24, Jim Henderson wrote:

> It's far less common than people saying "hey, aren't you the Muppet guy?"

Shouldn't that be "hey, weren't you the Muppet guy?"?


-- 
tip: do not run in an unknown place when it is too dark to see the 
floor, unless you prefer to not use uppercase.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Americans really are sue-happy...
Date: 21 Feb 2012 15:43:54
Message: <4f44020a$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:38:58 +0100, andrel wrote:

> On 20-2-2012 21:24, Jim Henderson wrote:
> 
>> It's far less common than people saying "hey, aren't you the Muppet
>> guy?"
> 
> Shouldn't that be "hey, weren't you the Muppet guy?"?

Well, my usual answer when I'm feeling relatively charitable about it is 
to check my pulse and say "nope, I've got a pulse, Henson no longer does."

Jim


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Americans really are sue-happy...
Date: 21 Feb 2012 18:40:01
Message: <4f442b51$1@news.povray.org>
On 2/21/2012 4:37, Le_Forgeron wrote:
> It's a bit different here. No judge. A notary.

Judge, notary, whatever. The point is that it's someone who is authorized by 
the government to sign the name of a dead person on legal documents. :-)

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   People tell me I am the counter-example.


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