On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:27:18 +0000, Stephen wrote:

>> That's not the case that we're talking about.  But in that particular
>> case, your own insurance would cover it, if you had insurance.  If you
>> didn't, then yes, you'd pay for it out of pocket.
> 
> I'll jump in here as I know that you won't think that I am being
> personal.

I don't see how the following could be taken personally. :)

> One thing that no one has mentioned is the distress, worry or even anger
> that it may have caused the woman who had to go to court to get her
> medical bills paid.

That's certainly true. :)

Jim

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On 2/20/2012 12:01, andrel wrote:
> What happens if the dead person has not
> enough money in the bank to pay? Will someone sell his car to settle it?

Probably. I don't understand all the details myself, mind, but your "estate" 
includes all your belongings. It's basically just like "bankruptcy" except 
without any of the protections against stuff like taking your home or means 
of employment.

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On 2/20/2012 11:51, andrel wrote:
> Technically he/she may decide that it is negligence, in real life it wasn't.

Running in front of a train going fast enough to pulp you and fling body 
parts all over the station? *I* would consider that a pretty negligent act.

> Here in the Netherlands it is not uncommon that the railway company or any
> other large company decides to pay even if they can technically not be
> blamed. Partly out of decency, partly because not doing so is bad publicity
> and conversely this is cheap and good publicity.

That happens here too.

> Probably it is indicative of the moral state of the USA that Amtrak did not
> do the decent thing and can get away with it. ;)

It can also be a matter of whether Amtrak wants to set the precedent that if 
you run in front of a train, it's Amtrak's fault for not stopping. I can see 
Amtrak fighting the lawsuit claiming it's their fault even *if* they still 
pay the medical bills out of decency.

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Am 20.02.2012 20:51, schrieb andrel:

>> Right. If you read, the court already decided it's a case of negilgence
>> on the part of the dead kid, and not on the part of amtrack.
>
> This is a case where I don't care what an USAsian judge decides. ;)
> Technically he/she may decide that it is negligence, in real life it
> wasn't.

Crossing railroad tracks without looking?

Indeed, that's not negligence - that's plain stupidity.

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>>> Neither was the Boy Named Sue...
>>
>> Haha! Oh man... that was damned funny.
>
> You do know that's the name of a song, right?

I wasn't aware that it was anything /other/ than a rather humorous song.

> (I know it because my mom wanted to name her daughter "Sue", but she had
> two boys and no girls...)

My mother wanted to name me William, and my sister Wendy. We were only 
spared because W.C. would be a crappy set of initials to have...

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Le 20/02/2012 19:36, Darren New a écrit :
> Say someone owns a house, and dies, and leaves it to you in their will.
> How do you take ownership? Answer: You go to the judge and get him to
> sign a deed on the dead person's behalf transferring the house into your
> ownership.

It's a bit different here. No judge. A notary.
The notary collects and applie the will, notify the state about the
taxes for the dead (within a six month delay to pay since the death),
and perform the writing of transferring the ownership (yet a few taxes
for that writing) once the taxes have been paid and heirs agrees.

Leaving a house in a will might be a curse, if you are a total stranger
the death-related taxes are about 60% of the evaluated price of the
house. Not including the 7% of writing for land-property. You can opt to
try to have the notary sells the house at the evaluated price, but the
delay of 6 months is playing against you...that's really only 2 months
to find a buyer (due to the delay the buyer get...) Assume you sell at
75% of the evaluated price (unless you get a mortgage to pay the tax ?
strange idea!), remove the taxes and a few needed diagnostic's bills...
lucky if something remains. (and it take you time)

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On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:14:59 +0000, Invisible wrote:

>>>> Neither was the Boy Named Sue...
>>>
>>> Haha! Oh man... that was damned funny.
>>
>> You do know that's the name of a song, right?
> 
> I wasn't aware that it was anything /other/ than a rather humorous song.

Well, given your history here, you never know. ;)

>> (I know it because my mom wanted to name her daughter "Sue", but she
>> had two boys and no girls...)
> 
> My mother wanted to name me William, and my sister Wendy. We were only
> spared because W.C. would be a crappy set of initials to have...

I see what you did there. ;)

Jim

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On 20-2-2012 21:24, Jim Henderson wrote:

> It's far less common than people saying "hey, aren't you the Muppet guy?"

Shouldn't that be "hey, weren't you the Muppet guy?"?


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On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:38:58 +0100, andrel wrote:

> On 20-2-2012 21:24, Jim Henderson wrote:
> 
>> It's far less common than people saying "hey, aren't you the Muppet
>> guy?"
> 
> Shouldn't that be "hey, weren't you the Muppet guy?"?

Well, my usual answer when I'm feeling relatively charitable about it is 
to check my pulse and say "nope, I've got a pulse, Henson no longer does."

Jim

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On 2/21/2012 4:37, Le_Forgeron wrote:
> It's a bit different here. No judge. A notary.

Judge, notary, whatever. The point is that it's someone who is authorized by 
the government to sign the name of a dead person on legal documents. :-)

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