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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Meet the beat
Date: 5 Feb 2012 10:34:19
Message: <4f2ea17a@news.povray.org>
Orchid Win7 v1 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> OK, you can kind of see how standing up uses 
> infintesimally more energy than sitting. But you wouldn't expect the 
> difference to be large enough to measure.

  How exactly do you think the heart is able to pump blood all the way
from your feet to your head when you are standing? By pumping stronger
and faster.

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Meet the beat
Date: 5 Feb 2012 12:16:14
Message: <4f2eb95e$1@news.povray.org>
On 05/02/2012 15:34, Warp wrote:
> Orchid Win7 v1<voi### [at] devnull>  wrote:
>> OK, you can kind of see how standing up uses
>> infintesimally more energy than sitting. But you wouldn't expect the
>> difference to be large enough to measure.
>
>    How exactly do you think the heart is able to pump blood all the way
> from your feet to your head when you are standing? By pumping stronger
> and faster.

Again, if the blood reaches all the way to my head when it's 4 feet off 
the ground, you would have thought reaching it when it's 6 feet off the 
ground wouldn't be that much more difficult.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Meet the beat
Date: 5 Feb 2012 12:30:14
Message: <4f2ebca5@news.povray.org>
Orchid Win7 v1 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> On 05/02/2012 15:34, Warp wrote:
> > Orchid Win7 v1<voi### [at] devnull>  wrote:
> >> OK, you can kind of see how standing up uses
> >> infintesimally more energy than sitting. But you wouldn't expect the
> >> difference to be large enough to measure.
> >
> >    How exactly do you think the heart is able to pump blood all the way
> > from your feet to your head when you are standing? By pumping stronger
> > and faster.

> Again, if the blood reaches all the way to my head when it's 4 feet off 
> the ground, you would have thought reaching it when it's 6 feet off the 
> ground wouldn't be that much more difficult.

  50% more total height requires at least that much more force, probably
more.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Meet the beat
Date: 5 Feb 2012 12:45:26
Message: <4f2ec036$1@news.povray.org>
>> Again, if the blood reaches all the way to my head when it's 4 feet off
>> the ground, you would have thought reaching it when it's 6 feet off the
>> ground wouldn't be that much more difficult.
>
>    50% more total height requires at least that much more force, probably
> more.

According to Wikipedia, pressure increases linearly as a function of 
depth. So, ignoring any change in resistance to blood flow due to the 
altered configuration of my body, yeah, 50% more force is required.

It's still an unexpected result.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Meet the beat
Date: 5 Feb 2012 12:50:35
Message: <4f2ec16b@news.povray.org>
On 05/02/2012 5:16 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> Again, if the blood reaches all the way to my head when it's 4 feet off
> the ground,you would have thought

Who would have thought? Not me, not the way you seem to.

> reaching it when it's 6 feet off the
> ground wouldn't be that much more difficult.

Your heart has to pump your blood through your leg arteries with enough 
energy to lift it through your thigh veins on the return. There is less 
work for it to do when you are sitting down.
Have you ever felt feint when you suddenly stand up? That is because the 
blood pressure/flow to your brain drops before your heart can catch up 
with the increase of work it has to do.

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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Meet the beat
Date: 6 Feb 2012 04:12:48
Message: <4f2f9990$1@news.povray.org>
On 05/02/2012 05:50 PM, Stephen wrote:

> Have you ever felt feint when you suddenly stand up?

Yes - but usually only when I'm dancing.

Like, I dance to the point of exhaustion (not very far, in my case), sit 
down for a moment, and then stand up again and- WOAH! OK, I'm sitting 
down again...


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Meet the beat
Date: 6 Feb 2012 04:32:44
Message: <4f2f9e3c$1@news.povray.org>
On 06/02/2012 9:12 AM, Invisible wrote:
> On 05/02/2012 05:50 PM, Stephen wrote:
>
>> Have you ever felt feint when you suddenly stand up?
>
> Yes - but usually only when I'm dancing.
>
> Like, I dance to the point of exhaustion (not very far, in my case), sit
> down for a moment, and then stand up again and- WOAH! OK, I'm sitting
> down again...

It sounds like you need to get fit but you know that, ;-)

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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Meet the beat
Date: 6 Feb 2012 05:07:47
Message: <4f2fa673$1@news.povray.org>
>> Like, I dance to the point of exhaustion (not very far, in my case), sit
>> down for a moment, and then stand up again and- WOAH! OK, I'm sitting
>> down again...
>
> It sounds like you need to get fit

O RLY?

> but you know that, ;-)

YA RLY!

:-(


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Meet the beat
Date: 6 Feb 2012 08:06:23
Message: <4f2fd04f$1@news.povray.org>
Note to self: Walking along snow-covered roads in flat-soled office 
shoes. Bad idea.

Although, it apparently affected my heart rate more than you'd imagine...


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Meet the beat
Date: 6 Feb 2012 09:14:26
Message: <4f2fe042@news.povray.org>
On 06/02/2012 01:06 PM, Invisible wrote:
> Although, it apparently affected my heart rate more than you'd imagine...

136 BPM peak, no less. (Although that was probably just that one time 
when I slipped and it startled me.) When I sat down again, it was 
registering 122 BPM.

I only bothered going because the backs of my legs were tight, and I 
wanted to loosen them up. Well, now the fronts of my legs are tight 
instead. >_<


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