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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Livecoding in Haskell
Date: 31 Jan 2012 14:48:21
Message: <4f284585$1@news.povray.org>
>>>>> Btw, if you use bash,
>>>>
>>>> Nope. CMD.EXE.
>>>
>>> oh, a masochist. My bad...
>>
>> It's the standard command interpreter on Windows. Shame it sucks, but hey.
>
> yeah, you can also use the (sub)standard text editor that comes with it and
> likewise for browser, image editor, shame whip etc...

Most of these things are easy to replace. But I'm not aware of any 
replacement command shell that doesn't suck.

(I could of course use bash - but then I'd have to constantly fight 
against all the Unixy stuff that doesn't belong on Windows...)


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From: Patrick Elliott
Subject: Re: Livecoding in Haskell
Date: 31 Jan 2012 18:51:36
Message: <4f287e88$1@news.povray.org>
On 1/31/2012 9:52 AM, nemesis wrote:
> Invisible<voi### [at] devnull>  wrote:
>>>>> Btw, if you use bash,
>>>>
>>>> Nope. CMD.EXE.
>>>
>>> oh, a masochist. My bad...
>>
>> It's the standard command interpreter on Windows. Shame it sucks, but hey.
>
> yeah, you can also use the (sub)standard text editor that comes with it and
> likewise for browser, image editor, shame whip etc...
>
>
Used to use 4Dos to extend that thing, but I refuse to pay what they 
want, just to add some color masking of file types, and a few commands, 
how ever useful, that MS never bothered to. MS decided a "better" 
solution was to create a command line "scripting host", which lacks the 
sandboxing that prevents it running some system commands instead regular 
applications. However, since they never gave anyone a damn clue it 
exists, or provided any easy way to figure out how the hell to use it... lol


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Livecoding in Haskell
Date: 1 Feb 2012 21:58:23
Message: <4f29fbcf@news.povray.org>
On 1/29/2012 13:55, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>>> ...oh, wait. Somebody already did. It's called Emacs. >_<
>>
>> You know Tcl. Go for it. That's about 10 lines of code.
>
> 10 lines that will take you at least a month to figure out. :-P

You, maybe. :-)

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   People tell me I am the counter-example.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Livecoding in Haskell
Date: 2 Feb 2012 04:39:49
Message: <4f2a59e5@news.povray.org>
>>> You know Tcl. Go for it. That's about 10 lines of code.
>>
>> 10 lines that will take you at least a month to figure out. :-P
>
> You, maybe. :-)

Do you have /any idea/ how many *hours* I've wasted trying to force Tk 
to lay out my stuff the way I actually want it to?! >_<


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Livecoding in Haskell
Date: 2 Feb 2012 10:56:23
Message: <4f2ab227$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible escreveu:
>>>> You know Tcl. Go for it. That's about 10 lines of code.
>>>
>>> 10 lines that will take you at least a month to figure out. :-P
>>
>> You, maybe. :-)
> 
> Do you have /any idea/ how many *hours* I've wasted trying to force Tk 
> to lay out my stuff the way I actually want it to?! >_<

if you were used to read or use google, you could actually learn rather 
than trial-and-error.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Livecoding in Haskell
Date: 2 Feb 2012 11:01:04
Message: <4f2ab340$1@news.povray.org>
>> Do you have /any idea/ how many *hours* I've wasted trying to force Tk
>> to lay out my stuff the way I actually want it to?! >_<
>
> if you were used to read or use google, you could actually learn rather
> than trial-and-error.

Well, if the user manual actually explained what all the various options 
do rather than just giving a terse summary of each one, that might help. 
I doubt Google is going to find anything other than the online copy of 
said manual. It's not like Google answers questions; it can only find 
content that actually /exists/ in the first place.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Livecoding in Haskell
Date: 2 Feb 2012 21:54:46
Message: <4f2b4c76$1@news.povray.org>
On 2/2/2012 8:01, Invisible wrote:
> manual. It's not like Google answers questions; it can only find content
> that actually /exists/ in the first place.

LMGTFY.

https://www.google.com/search?q=tcl+tk&btnG=Search+Books&tbm=bks&tbo=1

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   People tell me I am the counter-example.


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