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On 1/15/2012 2:51, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> All those people running MS software are *not* MS customers. They are an MS
> product. ;-)
Not precisely. If you bought Windows, you're a customer. If you run Windows,
you're a potential future customer (Office, upgrades, etc). Unlike broadcast
television, where there was no rational expectation of actual money coming
from the viewer in return for the TV shows before they started selling TV
shows on DVD.
It's just that the number of Windows licenses you personally buy is dwarfed
by the number that Gateway buys.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
People tell me I am the counter-example.
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On 1/15/2012 2:53, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Er, why would academics waste time on something as pointless as Wikipedia?
Why would academics waste time on determining the accuracy of
non-peer-reviewed published distribution channels? Really? You didn't spend
enough time in academia, I think. :-)
> Really? So paper encyclopedias are written by people with no domain
> knowledge simply plucking facts out of thin air too?
No, but neither are wikipedia articles, it seems.
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
People tell me I am the counter-example.
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 15:54:38 +0000, Stephen wrote:
> On 15/01/2012 10:46 AM, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> On 13/01/2012 05:34 PM, Warp wrote:
>>
>>> The problem with quotes in the modern world is that it's trivial to
>>> write them in google and get the source in a few seconds. There's no
>>> challenge anymore.
>>
>> Interestingly, typing "quod enim mavult homo verum esse id poteous
>> credit" yields few if any hits, despite being a very well-known quote.
>>
> Not well known to me. What does it mean?
Essentially boils down, I think, to "A man prefers what he believes to be
true".
Google Translate can now handle latin, but "poteous" it doesn't seem to
know.
Jim
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>> Not well known to me. What does it mean?
>
> Essentially boils down, I think, to "A man prefers what he believes to be
> true".
Quite. I believe it was Sir Francis Bacon who wrote that.
(The translation I saw was "for what a man wishes to be true, that he
more readily believes".)
> Google Translate can now handle latin, but "poteous" it doesn't seem to
> know.
I probably spelt it wrong. (Thinking about it, it might be "potious",
I'm not sure. Same root as "potestus", I think.)
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On 15/01/2012 07:09 PM, Darren New wrote:
> It's just that the number of Windows licenses you personally buy is
> dwarfed by the number that Gateway buys.
I thought it was more that Windows is a product that forces people to
buy expensive new hardware, which is why the hardware vendors agree to
supply it. (In other words, Windows is a product for helping hardware
vendors sell more stuff.)
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On 15/01/2012 07:11 PM, Darren New wrote:
> On 1/15/2012 2:53, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> Er, why would academics waste time on something as pointless as
>> Wikipedia?
>
> Why would academics waste time on determining the accuracy of
> non-peer-reviewed published distribution channels? Really? You didn't
> spend enough time in academia, I think. :-)
I wouldn't know about "academia" - I went to a crap university,
remember? Recall also that research is the thing I do worst.
That said, I would be surprised if any "serious" research had been done
in this direction. I know some people somehow manage to get funded to do
all kinds of ridiculous studies, and somebody might have managed to do a
joke study on Wikipedia, but I doubt much serious work has been done on
this.
>> Really? So paper encyclopedias are written by people with no domain
>> knowledge simply plucking facts out of thin air too?
>
> No, but neither are wikipedia articles, it seems.
Are you seriously suggesting that anything on Wikipedia is written by
somebody who has a clue?
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Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> On 15/01/2012 07:11 PM, Darren New wrote:
> > On 1/15/2012 2:53, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> >> Really? So paper encyclopedias are written by people with no domain
> >> knowledge simply plucking facts out of thin air too?
> >
> > No, but neither are wikipedia articles, it seems.
>
> Are you seriously suggesting that anything on Wikipedia is written by
> somebody who has a clue?
Suppose you're someone who has a clue. Then you go to a website where someone
who doesn't has written lots of BS. What do you do, given you know such a
popular website is a channel for distribution of knowledge? a) You cross your
fingers and hope for the best of mankind; b) you troll their pages with even
more BS to bring the whole site down as a fraud; c) you actually go and edit the
article with more accurate knowledge and citations.
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