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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: A plot idea
Date: 6 Dec 2011 04:04:47
Message: <4edddaaf$1@news.povray.org>
On 04/12/2011 07:43 PM, Kevin Wampler wrote:

> I'm not aware of any stories which have used this precise plot, but what
> you describe is a pretty well known philosophical thought experiment
> used to study/critique classical utilitarianism. You're right that it
> makes a good storyline though, and this combined with the fact that the
> premise is well known makes me a bit surprised I haven't ever seen such
> a story.

What surprises me is the sheer multitude of films who's premise is "you 
decide to replace Santa, and then it all goes horribly wrong, and now 
you have to save Christmas". I mean, because *nobody* has done that one 
already...


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: A plot idea
Date: 6 Dec 2011 06:07:12
Message: <4eddf75f@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> What surprises me is the sheer multitude of films who's premise is "you 
> decide to replace Santa, and then it all goes horribly wrong, and now 
> you have to save Christmas". I mean, because *nobody* has done that one 
> already...

  You decide to replace Santa? I can't think of any movie like that. Care
to give an example?

  There are, of course, plenty of movies where someone is chosen to be
the "new Santa" (because, in the universe of these movies, Santas have a
limited lifespan, and a new one needs to take his place when the old one
becomes too old), and it usually happens (at first) against their will.

  If you want to see a different Santa movie, try "Rare Exports: A Christmas
Tale" (the full-feature movie; although the short movie it's loosely based
on is ok too.)

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: A plot idea
Date: 6 Dec 2011 06:13:10
Message: <4eddf8c6$1@news.povray.org>
>> What surprises me is the sheer multitude of films who's premise is "you
>> decide to replace Santa, and then it all goes horribly wrong, and now
>> you have to save Christmas". I mean, because *nobody* has done that one
>> already...
>
>    You decide to replace Santa? I can't think of any movie like that. Care
> to give an example?

The Nightmare Before Christmas? Just off the top of my head...

>    There are, of course, plenty of movies where someone is chosen to be
> the "new Santa" (because, in the universe of these movies, Santas have a
> limited lifespan, and a new one needs to take his place when the old one
> becomes too old), and it usually happens (at first) against their will.

Well, yeah, or that. Or there's some sort of mixup and everyone ends up 
believing that some random dude is actually Santa. Or whatever.

>    If you want to see a different Santa movie, try "Rare Exports: A Christmas
> Tale" (the full-feature movie; although the short movie it's loosely based
> on is ok too.)

OK...


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: A plot idea
Date: 6 Dec 2011 16:01:34
Message: <4ede82ae@news.povray.org>
On 12/6/2011 3:07, Warp wrote:
>    You decide to replace Santa? I can't think of any movie like that. Care
> to give an example?

Nightmare before Christmas, as well as Hogfather.  (Both of which feature 
Grim Reaper / Death taking over for Santa.)

>    There are, of course, plenty of movies where someone is chosen to be
> the "new Santa"

Or the new Grim Reaper.  Funny how often these go together.


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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   People tell me I am the counter-example.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: A plot idea
Date: 6 Dec 2011 16:16:09
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Or the new Grim Reaper.

  It could be fun to watch one of those. Any suggestions?

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: A plot idea
Date: 6 Dec 2011 16:33:57
Message: <4ede8a45$1@news.povray.org>
On 06/12/2011 9:16 PM, Warp wrote:
> Darren New<dne### [at] sanrrcom>  wrote:
>> Or the new Grim Reaper.
>
>    It could be fun to watch one of those. Any suggestions?
>
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0765458/

I'm sure that you can find it if you want.

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     Stephen


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: A plot idea
Date: 6 Dec 2011 16:41:25
Message: <4ede8c05@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mcavoys_at@aoldotcom> wrote:
> On 06/12/2011 9:16 PM, Warp wrote:
> > Darren New<dne### [at] sanrrcom>  wrote:
> >> Or the new Grim Reaper.
> >
> >    It could be fun to watch one of those. Any suggestions?
> >
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0765458/

  According to the synopsis it's Death that is impersonating this
"Hogfather", rather than someone becoming the new Grim Reaper.

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: A plot idea
Date: 6 Dec 2011 17:02:36
Message: <4ede90fc$1@news.povray.org>
On 06/12/2011 9:41 PM, Warp wrote:
> Stephen<mcavoys_at@aoldotcom>  wrote:
>> On 06/12/2011 9:16 PM, Warp wrote:
>>> Darren New<dne### [at] sanrrcom>   wrote:
>>>> Or the new Grim Reaper.
>>>
>>>     It could be fun to watch one of those. Any suggestions?
>>>
>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0765458/
>
>    According to the synopsis it's Death that is impersonating this
> "Hogfather", rather than someone becoming the new Grim Reaper.
>

That is right, sorry, lazy reading.
I don't know any films where the Grim Reaper is replaced but Sir Terry 
wrote one where he takes a holiday (Soul Music). Piers Anthony wrote a 
book where a photographer is about to commit suicide, but instead kills 
Death and must assume his office (On a Pale Horse).

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     Stephen


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: A plot idea
Date: 6 Dec 2011 18:43:51
Message: <4edea8b7$1@news.povray.org>
On 12/6/2011 13:16, Warp wrote:
> Darren New<dne### [at] sanrrcom>  wrote:
>> Or the new Grim Reaper.
>
>    It could be fun to watch one of those. Any suggestions?

"On a Pale Horse" by Piers Anthony comes to mind. (Don't bother with the 
rest of the series, tho. :-)

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   People tell me I am the counter-example.


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From: Kevin Wampler
Subject: Re: A plot idea
Date: 6 Dec 2011 23:21:31
Message: <4edee9cb$1@news.povray.org>
On 12/6/2011 1:16 PM, Warp wrote:
> Darren New<dne### [at] sanrrcom>  wrote:
>> Or the new Grim Reaper.
>
>    It could be fun to watch one of those. Any suggestions?
>

It's not quite the same, but the TV series "Dead Like Me" has a 
relatively similar premise.  I've only seen a few episodes, but I think 
I recall thinking it was a good show.


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