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On 10/31/2011 13:21, andrel wrote:
> we don't have one either and I am pretty sure many countries on the equator
> won't have one too.
Well, that's a fair point, yes. But given that Warp said in Finland anything
above freezing is short-sleeve weather, I rather think if Finland lacks a
harvest festival, it's not because it's always a warm and prosperous growing
season. ;-)
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On 10/31/2011 13:46, Warp wrote:
> In other parts of Finland Easter time was, for some reason, associated
> with witches (I think this is a more international phenomenon than Finland
> only).
The earliest it was reasonable to dance naked in the forest? :-)
> At some point these two traditions got merged,
Cool traditions. Somehow I'd always thought that Europe had more generally
homogenous cultures in things like that, but I guess that's just the Ugly
American(tm) in me. :)
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On 11/1/2011 12:36, Warp wrote:
> Apparently nobody is interested in Finnish culture. Bummer. And I poured
> my soul into writing this.
I'm finding it fascinating, but you apparently posted it after I had lunch
and before I got home from work. :-) *You* might have slept, but many of us
are on the other side o the world. :-)
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On 11/1/2011 1:33, Warp wrote:
> Btw, in this case the witches refer to the traditional (both real and
> mythological) witches of Lapland (northern Finland),
Sounds like Discworld witches. :-)
? not the pointy-hat
> wearing broom-riding witches (although some dress as those as well).
I wonder if the pointy hat black cloak witch was entirely an invention of
the Wizard of Oz movie. I think I remember old woodcuts with broom-riding
women, but they were always pagan-naked.
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On 10/31/2011 23:41, Patrick Elliott wrote:
> in the end, *any* harvest festival pretty much "is" Halloween, we just ended
> up with the version that included costumes and candy.
Actually, we got American Thanksgiving, too. So double-plus there.
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On 11/1/2011 2:32 PM, Warp wrote:
>
> Just joking, of course. Was expecting *some* comments, though. :)
>
I often find that posts on the internet which are interesting and well
thought out get very few replies -- particularly if they're outside of
everyone's area of expertise. I suppose it's because none of the
potential respondents has anything relevant and of substance to add, and
comments like "wow, that's neat!" you'd typically hear in normal
conversation don't flow as well in a non-chat-oriented medium. At least
that's the case with me and this post, and I assume with others as well.
I agree it can be discouraging though since from the poster's end
there's no way to differentiate between "interested but don't have
anything to add" and "not interested".
In order to get replies, it seems best to post something incorrect in an
area where plenty of people have enough knowledge to point out your mistake.
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On 11/1/2011 7:04 PM, Darren New wrote:
> On 11/1/2011 1:33, Warp wrote:
>> Btw, in this case the witches refer to the traditional (both real and
>> mythological) witches of Lapland (northern Finland),
>
> Sounds like Discworld witches. :-)
>
> ? not the pointy-hat
>> wearing broom-riding witches (although some dress as those as well).
>
> I wonder if the pointy hat black cloak witch was entirely an invention
> of the Wizard of Oz movie. I think I remember old woodcuts with
> broom-riding women, but they were always pagan-naked.
>
>
Of course they where. Porn might have been frowned on, but porn as a
social statement about the "evils of witches", would be OK. lol
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Kevin Wampler <wam### [at] u washingtonedu> wrote:
> In order to get replies, it seems best to post something incorrect in an
> area where plenty of people have enough knowledge to point out your mistake.
But that would derail the conversation.
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> On 10/31/2011 23:41, Patrick Elliott wrote:
> > in the end, *any* harvest festival pretty much "is" Halloween, we just ended
> > up with the version that included costumes and candy.
> Actually, we got American Thanksgiving, too. So double-plus there.
What do you need two harvest festivals for?
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> On 10/31/2011 13:46, Warp wrote:
> > In other parts of Finland Easter time was, for some reason, associated
> > with witches (I think this is a more international phenomenon than Finland
> > only).
> The earliest it was reasonable to dance naked in the forest? :-)
The typical image of a Lapland witch was a rural very old wrinkled woman.
I don't think "dancing naked" was part of the imago... :P
To be honest, I have no idea at what age the real-life "witches" started
their "profession" back when they were still active. I suppose they had
some kind of apprentices, if not even daughters that would succeed them.
I also don't know when the practice was completely eradicated, but I think
they prevailed up until surprisingly recently. AFAIK even in 1950's there
were still some such women up there far in the north.
> > At some point these two traditions got merged,
> Cool traditions. Somehow I'd always thought that Europe had more generally
> homogenous cultures in things like that, but I guess that's just the Ugly
> American(tm) in me. :)
Europe is not the United States. The cultures are extremely varied, both
in the north-nouth axis and the east-west axis.
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