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>>> To be fair, a lot of what IE does was done before the post-hoc
>>> standards were written. Backward compatibility is a bitch.
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>> Heh. And yet, IE6 is still horribly broken, years after those
>> standards were written.
>
> No surprise, given that it's obsolete since two version increments :-P
Let me just go check... Yep, my PC has IE6 installed.
Wanna guess how many other people also?
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>> Wanna take a guess how many people have bothered to reply?
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> Hm... a single one, who promptly got stoned for that? :-P
Er, actually zero.
That's the thing about Haskell. If you pop in and say "what the heck
does 'monad' mean?" you'll get about 25 replies in less than 60 seconds.
(NO I AM NOT EXAGGERATING! I've seen it happen *so many* times.)
Actually, for THAT question, most of the replies will be "read this
reference manual / blog post / text book". But if you ask something
slightly less commonly asked, you'll get 25 people explain it to you 25
different ways - one of which will hopefully make some sort of sense to you.
But, if you ask a question such as "why doesn't this work on Windows?"
you will be greeted by deathly silence. Indeed, there are whole classes
of questions which nobody will answer.
So basically, if you're a newbie and you're asking "easy" questions,
you'll get a flood of replies and quickly conclude that Haskell has a
vibrant and friendly community behind it. But as soon as you start
asking "difficult" or just "uninteresting" questions... you'll form
another opinion. *sigh*
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On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:32:46 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> But, if you ask a question such as "why doesn't this work on Windows?"
> you will be greeted by deathly silence. Indeed, there are whole classes
> of questions which nobody will answer.
Maybe nobody knows.....
Jim
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>> But, if you ask a question such as "why doesn't this work on Windows?"
>> you will be greeted by deathly silence. Indeed, there are whole classes
>> of questions which nobody will answer.
>
> Maybe nobody knows.....
While that *is* quite likely, it's also quite unhelpful.
Well anyway, I threatened them with http://www.bash.org/?152037 and now
I seem to be getting useful hints at least. (Stuff like "turn on debug
logging".)
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Orchid XP v8 schrieb:
>>> Heh. And yet, IE6 is still horribly broken, years after those
>>> standards were written.
>>
>> No surprise, given that it's obsolete since two version increments :-P
>
> Let me just go check... Yep, my PC has IE6 installed.
>
> Wanna guess how many other people also?
Yeah, but I guess not many of them expect IE6 to get any better nowadays :-)
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On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:01:02 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> But, if you ask a question such as "why doesn't this work on Windows?"
>>> you will be greeted by deathly silence. Indeed, there are whole
>>> classes of questions which nobody will answer.
>>
>> Maybe nobody knows.....
>
> While that *is* quite likely, it's also quite unhelpful.
That's the nature of online support. People who don't know don't speak
up because they don't feel they can contribute anything by saying "I have
no idea".
> Well anyway, I threatened them with http://www.bash.org/?152037 and now
> I seem to be getting useful hints at least. (Stuff like "turn on debug
> logging".)
Heh, funny, but in reality that doesn't work either. We get that on the
openSUSE forums (where I'm now a moderator) occasionally, and the typical
troll is "Linux sux and I'm moving back to windows", which gets the
response "Have a lot of fun!" (A tagline of sorts for SUSE).
Jim
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> Well anyway, I threatened them with http://www.bash.org/?152037 and now I
> seem to be getting useful hints at least. (Stuff like "turn on debug
> logging".)
It often seems to work. Usually along the lines of "OS/program/API X sucks
because it can't do Y", followed shortly by "GIYF/MSDN/help is your friend,
actually you can do Y like this...".
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> That's the nature of online support. People who don't know don't speak
> up because they don't feel they can contribute anything by saying "I have
> no idea".
You haven't spent much time hanging around p.o-t, have you? ;-)
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".
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On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:50:19 -0700, Darren New wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> That's the nature of online support. People who don't know don't speak
>> up because they don't feel they can contribute anything by saying "I
>> have no idea".
>
> You haven't spent much time hanging around p.o-t, have you? ;-)
Hehehehehe, arguably, p.o-t isn't exactly a support area. ;-)
Jim
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>> You haven't spent much time hanging around p.o-t, have you? ;-)
>
> Hehehehehe, arguably, p.o-t isn't exactly a support area. ;-)
I think of it as more of a group therapy area, but whatever...
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