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From: Darren New
Subject: September 11th
Date: 12 Sep 2009 00:51:07
Message: <4aab28bb$1@news.povray.org>
I wonder if 50 years from now there will be people "9/11 deniers" who 
seriously claim there was never a World Trade Center at all, and the whole 
collapse was just made up. (As in now we have holocaust deniers, in other 
words.)
-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: Reactor
Subject: Re: September 11th
Date: 12 Sep 2009 04:10:01
Message: <web.4aab5724ed4e7e9d2515c0ed0@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> I wonder if 50 years from now there will be people "9/11 deniers" who
> seriously claim there was never a World Trade Center at all, and the whole
> collapse was just made up. (As in now we have holocaust deniers, in other
> words.)
> --
>    Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
>    I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


I would be (slightly) surprised if you couldn't find them right now.

cheek.tongue.remove();

-Reactor


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: September 11th
Date: 12 Sep 2009 04:14:01
Message: <4aab5849@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> I wonder if 50 years from now there will be people "9/11 deniers" who 
> seriously claim there was never a World Trade Center at all, and the 
> whole collapse was just made up. (As in now we have holocaust deniers, 
> in other words.)

We have those *today*, never mind in 50 years time.

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: September 11th
Date: 12 Sep 2009 04:37:19
Message: <4aab5dbf$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New schrieb:
> I wonder if 50 years from now there will be people "9/11 deniers" who 
> seriously claim there was never a World Trade Center at all, and the 
> whole collapse was just made up. (As in now we have holocaust deniers, 
> in other words.)

There are people who claim that one or two whole centuries of AC history 
are nothing but a fabrication - so yes, I guess the emergence of such 
claims has to be taken as a given.

Even today, there are plenty of people who never saw the WTC with their 
own eyes. And in 50 years' time, there will be plenty of people who will 
never even have spent that day in front of the TV, watching the live(?) 
broadcasts.


But then again, a CIA conspiracy to start a war by fabricating the 
demolishion of a fabricated building doesn't sound half as sinister as 
starting a war by really demolishing a real building, with thousands of 
real casualties, so I guss the majority of conspiracy theorists will 
prefer to take the existence of the WTC for granted, even in 50 yers' time.


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From: Tim Attwood
Subject: Re: September 11th
Date: 12 Sep 2009 05:38:59
Message: <4aab6c33$1@news.povray.org>
> I wonder if 50 years from now there will be people "9/11 deniers" who 
> seriously claim there was never a World Trade Center at all, and the 
> whole collapse was just made up. (As in now we have holocaust deniers, 
> in other words.)

During WWI the Germans blew up the Black Tom ammo dump in 
NY harbor, the explosion damaged the statue of liberty and shrapnel 
set fires in Jersey City. The blast was so large it registered more than
5.0 on the Richter scale, broke thousands of windows in Manhattan,
and was felt in Philadelphia.

Despite the seriousness of the attack, the reaction at the time was
to scapegoat the management of some munitions companies. It took
more than ten years to exonerate them, by then the war was long
over, and the story was no longer in the news.

It's reasonable to come to the conclusion that misdirection 
by scapegoating the innocent is intended to deflect and delay
retribution on the guilty.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: September 11th
Date: 12 Sep 2009 07:15:41
Message: <4aab82dd@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> I wonder if 50 years from now there will be people "9/11 deniers" who 
> seriously claim there was never a World Trade Center at all, and the whole 
> collapse was just made up. (As in now we have holocaust deniers, in other 
> words.)

  Not necessarily. Nobody is claiming that eg. the Titanic didn't actually
exist, that there was no attack on Pearl Harbor (or that Pearl Harbor didn't
even exist) or that there was no such president as Kennedy or that he wasn't
really murdered.

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: September 11th
Date: 12 Sep 2009 09:34:42
Message: <4aaba372$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> I wonder if 50 years from now there will be people "9/11 deniers" who 
> seriously claim there was never a World Trade Center at all, and the 
> whole collapse was just made up. (As in now we have holocaust deniers, 
> in other words.)

That's like asking if 50 years from now there will be crazy people.


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From: Tim Cook
Subject: Re: September 11th
Date: 12 Sep 2009 10:51:09
Message: <4aabb55d$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   Not necessarily. Nobody is claiming that eg. the Titanic didn't actually
> exist, that there was no attack on Pearl Harbor (or that Pearl Harbor didn't
> even exist) or that there was no such president as Kennedy or that he wasn't
> really murdered.

Maybe not, but the cake *is* a lie.

--
Tim Cook
http://empyrean.freesitespace.net


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: September 11th
Date: 12 Sep 2009 11:39:06
Message: <4aabc09a$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>> I wonder if 50 years from now there will be people "9/11 deniers" who 
>> seriously claim there was never a World Trade Center at all, and the 
>> whole collapse was just made up. (As in now we have holocaust deniers, 
>> in other words.)
> 
> We have those *today*, never mind in 50 years time.

I don't think we have people claiming the buildings were never there to be 
knocked down in the first place.  We just have people thinking they weren't 
knocked down by the people the government says knocked them down.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: September 11th
Date: 12 Sep 2009 11:40:02
Message: <4aabc0d2@news.povray.org>
clipka wrote:
> one or two whole centuries of AC history 

What's AC history?

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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