On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:18:38 +0200, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>>  Amazon has Office 2007 Home/Student version for 67 pounds. That gets  
>> you Word, Excel and PowerPoint which can be installed on up to 3  
>> machines. Doesn't sound bad to me!
>
> Sure, but only if you're a student. That's no help to anybody else.

No, not just for students. Basically any non-commercial usage.



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>>>  Amazon has Office 2007 Home/Student version for 67 pounds. That gets 
>>> you Word, Excel and PowerPoint which can be installed on up to 3 
>>> machines. Doesn't sound bad to me!
>>
>> Sure, but only if you're a student. That's no help to anybody else.
> 
> No, not just for students. Basically any non-commercial usage.

That would be a rather drastic licensing difference... Can you quote a 
source for this?

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>>>>  Amazon has Office 2007 Home/Student version for 67 pounds. That gets 
>>>> you Word, Excel and PowerPoint which can be installed on up to 3 
>>>> machines. Doesn't sound bad to me!
>>>
>>> Sure, but only if you're a student. That's no help to anybody else.
>
>> No, not just for students. Basically any non-commercial usage.
>
> That would be a rather drastic licensing difference... Can you quote a 
> source for this?

http://office.microsoft.com/en-gb/suites/HA101655301033.aspx

"Are there license restrictions to Office Home and Student 2007?

Yes. Office Home and Student 2007 is licensed only for noncommercial use by 
households. It cannot be used in commercial (business) situations."

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> I would be far more sympathetic if it weren't for the fact that Open 
> Office was put together in (comparatively speaking) five minutes yet works 
> far better than the thing it's copying.

I guess it's really easy (comparatively speaking) if you have another 
program to copy exactly.

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>>>> Sure, but only if you're a student. That's no help to anybody else.
>>
>>> No, not just for students. Basically any non-commercial usage.
>>
>> That would be a rather drastic licensing difference... Can you quote a 
>> source for this?
> 
> http://office.microsoft.com/en-gb/suites/HA101655301033.aspx
> 
> "Are there license restrictions to Office Home and Student 2007?
> 
> Yes. Office Home and Student 2007 is licensed only for noncommercial use 
> by households. It cannot be used in commercial (business) situations."

...but no mention of you having to actually *be* a student...

Oh, I see. It's actually called "Home and Student Edition". Interesting. 
When my mum tried to buy this, it was "Student Edition" and you actually 
had to provide proof of enrolement, etc. Apparently they've changed 
their policy...

Well, I guess at least I can say I've learned something today.

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scott wrote:
>> I would be far more sympathetic if it weren't for the fact that Open 
>> Office was put together in (comparatively speaking) five minutes yet 
>> works far better than the thing it's copying.
> 
> I guess it's really easy (comparatively speaking) if you have another 
> program to copy exactly.

Depends what it does.

For something like a word processor, which is basically 95% UI, you're 
probably right about that...

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> Depends what it does.
>
> For something like a word processor, which is basically 95% UI, you're 
> probably right about that...

Also note that OO have released a pretty much continuous stream of updates 
and patches since it was released to fix bugs and security holes, even 
though they probably have fewer users than MS has beta testing new products. 
Maybe it's just really hard and time-consuming to write bug-free software, 
and not just that MS can't be bothered after all?

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Invisible wrote:
>> Amazon has Office 2007 Home/Student version for 67 pounds. That gets 
>> you Word, Excel and PowerPoint which can be installed on up to 3 
>> machines. Doesn't sound bad to me!
> 
> Sure, but only if you're a student. That's no help to anybody else.
> 

Well, that and.. Its been more than 10 years since MS put out a 
"student" version of anything that didn't basically leave out a mess of 
features, on the grounds that you "don't really need them". Their 
versions of Visual Studio being a good example. The student additions 
where usually made so that you couldn't compile to a full executable, 
which would run separate from the design environment. Other companies 
did similar things with their products. Don't know if they changed that, 
but I don't trust "anything" that has the words "student edition" in 
them any more. lol

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     if version = "Vista" {
       call slow_by_half();
       call DRM_everything();
     }
     call functional_code();
   }
   else
     call crash_windows();
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scott wrote:
> 
> It does come with a lot of computers though, again I suspect they get a
> bulk discount on Office as well as Windows.
> 

All Office 2007's I've seen coming with a computer, have been 30day
trial versions.

-Aero

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Invisible wrote:
> I would be far more sympathetic if it weren't for the fact that Open 
> Office was put together in (comparatively speaking) five minutes yet 
> works far better than the thing it's copying.

I wouldn't know, I stopped using it a few years ago.  It was buggy as 
he**, and slow as molasses at the time.

Office 2007, on the other hand, works great.  With the exception of 
Outlook (which I love, but don't use due to its crippling speed issues). 
  And it sounds like Office 2010 is going to be even better.

-- 
Chambers

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