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"Warp" <war### [at] tag povrayorg> wrote in message
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> Could the population loss of coelacanths happening right now be caused
> by completely unrelated phenomena and its timing a complete coincidence?
> Maybe. Rather big of a coincidence, though.
Why?
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> Could the population loss of coelacanths happening right now be caused
> by completely unrelated phenomena and its timing a complete coincidence?
> Maybe. Rather big of a coincidence, though.
>
> --
> - Warp
Not really. I wouldn't be surprised though if we found that the coelacanth
has been in danger for centuries or even thousands of years. They have never
been known to be common, not during recorded history. If people are
responsible for their current status, I can't imagine how it happened. If
they were over-fished we would probably know about it. I don't think we have
deprived them of a habitat- not yet. Their food supply has always, and still
is, plentiful. It may sound like a dumb question, but, in what way has
mankind contributed to the dissapperance of the coelacanth?
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Halbert wrote:
> It may sound like a dumb question, but, in what way has
> mankind contributed to the dissapperance of the coelacanth?
For a moment there, I thought you were called Halibut.
That would be kinda fishy though...
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>
> For a moment there, I thought you were called Halibut.
>
> That would be kinda fishy though...
>
I kind of like the idea.
"I wonder where that fish did go? A fish, a fish, a fishy, oh!"
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Halbert <hal### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> Not really. I wouldn't be surprised though if we found that the coelacanth
> has been in danger for centuries or even thousands of years. They have never
> been known to be common, not during recorded history.
They were rather known in the Comoros by local fishermen because they
would occasionally get one in their net, so it's not like it has been a
completely unknown fish in recent history. Nowadays Comorians are trying
to preserve the coecalanths by returning them to the sea when they catch
one by mistake, because of their endangered status.
> If people are
> responsible for their current status, I can't imagine how it happened. If
> they were over-fished we would probably know about it. I don't think we have
> deprived them of a habitat- not yet. Their food supply has always, and still
> is, plentiful. It may sound like a dumb question, but, in what way has
> mankind contributed to the dissapperance of the coelacanth?
Large-scale commercial fishing has shifted from continental shelves to
their slopes, endangering many deep-sea fish species (because deep sea fish
reproduce very slowly).
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- Warp
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No prob. Pigs will avenge them all. ;)
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Warp wrote:
> It's sad, really. Maybe the only consolation is that we will eventually
> kill ourselves
I don't know how consoled I feel by this possibility.
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"Kevin Wampler" <wam### [at] uwashingtonedu> wrote in message
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> Warp wrote:
> > It's sad, really. Maybe the only consolation is that we will
eventually
> > kill ourselves
>
> I don't know how consoled I feel by this possibility.
I'm pretty sure you both will be dead long before humanity expires one way
or the other, so I fail to see why one could either be consoled or
non-consoled.
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somebody escreveu:
> "Kevin Wampler" <wam### [at] uwashingtonedu> wrote in message
> news:49f9fa2b$1@news.povray.org...
>> Warp wrote:
>
>>> It's sad, really. Maybe the only consolation is that we will
> eventually
>>> kill ourselves
>> I don't know how consoled I feel by this possibility.
>
> I'm pretty sure you both will be dead long before humanity expires one way
> or the other, so I fail to see why one could either be consoled or
> non-consoled.
Well, I'm pretty sure the last man on Earth far off in the future will
say the same careless thing as you now, but is about to die from a
terrible tragedy anyway. :P
This argument of "well, that's a problem for our sons and grandsons"
really bothers me. We may well have no descendants to handle that kind
of responsability.
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somebody wrote:
> I'm pretty sure you both will be dead long before humanity expires one way
> or the other, so I fail to see why one could either be consoled or
> non-consoled.
I believe it's an artifact of caring about things which don't directly
impact me. I suspect you agree with this, so perhaps there's some term
that we're reading different meanings in to?
On a bit of a tangent, I do agree that it's highly unlikely that
humanity as a whole is in any danger of actual extinction in the near
future. I don't think it's an important point though, since there's
plenty enough bad things that can happen to both us and other species
without any need for our total extinction, and there is at least the
possibility of some of those obtaining during our lifetimes.
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