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"Warp" <war### [at] tag povrayorg> wrote in message
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> A gun is simply a more advanced version of a crossbow, which is an
> advanced version of a bow. Nobody seems to oppose people who own and use
> bows as a sport.
I don't remember the last time I read a news article about someone using a
bow to kill people. We read about guns being used to kill people on a daily
basis. Maybe that has something to do with it.
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On 4/27/2009 9:48 AM, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> Chambers wrote:
>> A mistake by a gun-owner results in someone getting shot and possibly
>> killed.
>
> I believe *his* point is: Guns are made for shooting and killing. If someone
> gets shot or gets killed, is it a mistake? The gun did what it was made
> for.
That makes it even worse for doctors.
Think about it: a profession dedicated to saving lives kills *more*
people than a tool designed to take them.
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...Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com
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On 4/27/2009 10:42 AM, somebody wrote:
> Indeed. None of the three that are killed by that Georgia professor will
> not, by definition, enter into the "accidental deaths by gun" column, for
I never had an "accidental deaths by gun" column.
It was always "total deaths by gun" versus "accidental deaths by doctor."
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...Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com
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On 4/27/2009 10:45 AM, somebody wrote:
> "Chambers"<ben### [at] pacificwebguycom> wrote in message
> news:49f5bbf4@news.povray.org...
>> On 4/26/2009 8:12 PM, somebody wrote:
>
>> The latest figures I saw (from a website trying to debunk the "myth," in
>
> Well, it must be true then.
Given that every other website I found had much worse statistics for
doctors, I thought I would quote the most subdued figures.
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...Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com
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> Think about it: a profession dedicated to saving lives kills *more* people
> than a tool designed to take them.
More people die while driving a car than while jumping off a tall building
without any safety devices. It's true! Jumping off a tall building is much
safer than driving!
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"Chambers" <ben### [at] pacificwebguycom> wrote in message
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> On 4/27/2009 10:42 AM, somebody wrote:
> > Indeed. None of the three that are killed by that Georgia professor will
> > not, by definition, enter into the "accidental deaths by gun" column,
for
>
> I never had an "accidental deaths by gun" column.
Correct.
> It was always "total deaths by gun" versus "accidental deaths by doctor."
False.
From the article you posted the link:
<q>
-- There are 700,000 physicians in the United States.
-- There are 120,000 accidental deaths in the United States caused by
physicians every year, and the accidental death percentage per physician is
0.171.
-- There are 80 million gun owners in the United States.
-- There are 1,500 accidental deaths from guns every year, regardless of age
group, and the accidental death percentage per gun owner is 0.0000188.
</q>
So, no, *you* didn't have that column, but I never said *you* had it either.
In any case, it's meaningless. The comparison is nonsense on so many levels
that it's not even wrong.
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"Chambers" <ben### [at] pacificwebguycom> wrote in message
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> On 4/27/2009 10:45 AM, somebody wrote:
> > "Chambers"<ben### [at] pacificwebguycom> wrote in message
> > news:49f5bbf4@news.povray.org...
> >> On 4/26/2009 8:12 PM, somebody wrote:
> >
> >> The latest figures I saw (from a website trying to debunk the "myth,"
in
> >
> > Well, it must be true then.
>
> Given that every other website I found had much worse statistics for
> doctors, I thought I would quote the most subdued figures.
Interesting criteria for assessing truth.
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On 4/28/2009 10:26 AM, somebody wrote:
> "Chambers"<ben### [at] pacificwebguycom> wrote in message
>> Given that every other website I found had much worse statistics for
>> doctors, I thought I would quote the most subdued figures.
>
> Interesting criteria for assessing truth.
Actually, it usually works. When you hear some statistics that seem too
far fetched to be true, take the ones that are the least far fetched.
--
...Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com
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"Chambers" <ben### [at] pacificwebguycom> wrote in message
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> On 4/28/2009 10:26 AM, somebody wrote:
> > "Chambers"<ben### [at] pacificwebguycom> wrote in message
> >> Given that every other website I found had much worse statistics for
> >> doctors, I thought I would quote the most subdued figures.
> >
> > Interesting criteria for assessing truth.
>
> Actually, it usually works. When you hear some statistics that seem too
> far fetched to be true, take the ones that are the least far fetched.
Yes, the lesser of outrageous claims must be true. I know it works. It's a
common salesman's trick. Well, it works for the salesman anyway.
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On 5/1/2009 7:24 AM, somebody wrote:
> Yes, the lesser of outrageous claims must be true. I know it works. It's a
> common salesman's trick. Well, it works for the salesman anyway.
?
You're misunderstanding me. In fact, you do so persistently enough that
I think it's intentional.
I did NOT say, "the lesser of outrageous claims must be true."
I DID say, the lesser of outrageous claims is more likely to be true.
And don't bother trying to discredit me by associating my arguments with
those used by salesmen. The fact is that everyone is selling something,
including you, so the sooner you get over your irrational, babyish fear
of sales the sooner you can get on with being an intelligent adult.
--
...Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com
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