somebody <x### [at] ycom> wrote:
> Yes, so? As near as I can see, there's little to no legitimate use of
> torrents. I don't buy the "it's just the technology" argument. It's the same
> argument that gun lobbyist use "guns don't kill people, people do". Well, if
> you facilitate a crime, you are partaking in it.

  The same argument could be used to shut down the entire internet.

  How many % of the information transferred over the internet breaks
copyright laws? The internet is clearly facilitating the illegal distribution
of copyrighted material.

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> *If* Google facilitates
> piracy,

What, you mean like how I can type "torrents" or "torrentz" into Google and 
it will give me a huge list of websites to try and find some pirate 
software?  Honestly, Google couldn't make it any easier for me (unless they 
actually searched the torrents too).

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"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message
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> somebody <x### [at] ycom> wrote:

> > Yes, so? As near as I can see, there's little to no legitimate use of
> > torrents. I don't buy the "it's just the technology" argument. It's the
same
> > argument that gun lobbyist use "guns don't kill people, people do".
Well, if
> > you facilitate a crime, you are partaking in it.

>   The same argument could be used to shut down the entire internet.

Now you are watering down the argument. Yes, "cars also kill people" too.
No, it's not the same thing.

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scott wrote:
> Imagine if Google started crawling torrent files too and these showed up 
> in search results, the RIAA would be round there quicker than a 
> coffee-burnt American.

http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&client=google-coop&cof=FORID%3A13%3BAH%3Aleft%3BCX%3ATorrent%2520Search%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fcoop%2Fintl%2Fen-US%2Fimages%2Fcustom_search_sm.gif%3BLH%3A65%3BLP%3A1%3BVLC%3A%23551a8b%3BGFNT%3A%23666666%3BDIV%3A%23cccccc%3B&adkw=AELymgWXEWUon9bjOI5pGt28x61HhkpeVSOpxZlWsb3wEhXtUJ0zmYciTEYqIgLL57CE7caI-MwiMMfjtQn8ES73dMwigmF3E7xC1I3lbmtlXpFZy62S4Yg&boostcse=0&q=lost&btnG=Search&cx=003849996876419856805%3Aerhhdbygrma


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somebody wrote:
> Yes, so? As near as I can see, there's little to no legitimate use of
> torrents. 

Linux distros and World of Warcraft both use torrent technology to 
distribute their stuff. Amazon supports it directly for stuff you want to 
share without paying for all the bandwidth.  It *is* just a technology.

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   There's no CD like OCD, there's no CD I knoooow!

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"Darren New" <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote in message
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> somebody wrote:

> > Yes, so? As near as I can see, there's little to no legitimate use of
> > torrents.

> Linux distros and World of Warcraft both use torrent technology to
> distribute their stuff. Amazon supports it directly for stuff you want to
> share without paying for all the bandwidth.  It *is* just a technology.

Those few legitimate uses do not constitute a need. Don't know or care about
WoW, but I've never needed torrent, and I've downloaded several Linux
distros. While a couple legitimate uses have been thrown in time to time for
variety, P2P has always been about copyright infringement.

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Le 22.04.2009 00:17, somebody nous fit lire :

> Those few legitimate uses do not constitute a need. Don't know or care about
> WoW, but I've never needed torrent, and I've downloaded several Linux
> distros. 

Your use of Internet does not constitute any valid data, nor a valid reference.
Ever heard of "Your Mileage May Vary" ?
Democracy is not about pushing your point of view and ruling. That was for absolute
king,
and only a few remains in the world today.

Your other statement about EU could be open to persecution in some countries. Hope you
like it too that way.

> While a couple legitimate uses have been thrown in time to time for
> variety, P2P has always been about copyright infringement.

That's an over-gross generalization, as is your sole purpose here.

Which one do you prefer, happy Canadian : Telus or Shaw ?

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On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:17:44 -0600, somebody wrote:

> Those few legitimate uses do not constitute a need

Just because you don't use it and don't see there is a need doesn't mean 
there isn't a need.

Jim

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somebody wrote:
> Those few legitimate uses do not constitute a need.

I disagree.

> Don't know or care about WoW, but I've never needed torrent, 

Good for you.

> and I've downloaded several Linux distros. 

Yes? So?

 > P2P has always been about copyright infringement.

Actually, I'm pretty sure bittorrent was specifically developed for 
downloading game patches.  And if you go to the more general meaning of 
"P2P" rather than "the version of P2P I mean", then no, the majority of P2P 
hasn't been about copyright infringement. IM and email are both P2P 
applications, for example. I don't think "P2P has always been about 
copyright infringement" any more than search has always been about finding 
copyrighted information.

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   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   There's no CD like OCD, there's no CD I knoooow!

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On 4/20/2009 11:31 AM, somebody wrote:
> Two wrongs do not make a right.

They did when we fought the Revolution.  Killing is wrong, but we boldly 
killed many innocent English soldiers in the name of the greater good.

As I understand it (and my understanding is admittedly limited), these 
"pirates" view themselves on Somalia's defenders.  Darren pointed out 
they call themselves the "Volunteer Coast Guard of Somalia."  Does this 
sound like someone in it for the money?

Even if they are, it wouldn't be a new thing for revolutionaries to have 
a mercenary bent.

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