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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Oops..
Date: 29 Dec 2008 20:10:01
Message: <web.4959744c9c1aa692180057960@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Alvarez <nic### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> Patrick Elliott wrote:
> > Apparently the source for Windows 7 Beta has been leaked via Bittorrent.
>
> The SOURCE?!

Not the first time it happens.  XP or Vista also had the source "leaked" in its
entirety.  Someone lucky enough may want to turn off Windows Genuine Advantage
and DRM features, compile it and maintain themselves... ;)


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Oops..
Date: 30 Dec 2008 04:29:22
Message: <4959e9f2@news.povray.org>
nemesis <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
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> Nicolas Alvarez <nic### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> > Patrick Elliott wrote:
> > > Apparently the source for Windows 7 Beta has been leaked via Bittorrent.
> >
> > The SOURCE?!

> Not the first time it happens.  XP or Vista also had the source "leaked" in its
> entirety.  Someone lucky enough may want to turn off Windows Genuine Advantage
> and DRM features, compile it and maintain themselves... ;)

  I think that the point was that the article has no mention of the source
code having been leaked.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Oops..
Date: 30 Dec 2008 11:07:34
Message: <495a4746$1@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> Doesn't look like it. Just binaries, as it has happened with Vista oh so
> many times.

... which seems to have bitten MS in the butt, given the number of 
complaints about things broken in the beta that the general populace thinks 
are still broken in the release versions.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   The NFL should go international. I'd pay to
   see the Detroit Lions vs the Roman Catholics.


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From: Patrick Elliott
Subject: Re: Oops..
Date: 30 Dec 2008 13:44:43
Message: <495a6c1b$1@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
>> Patrick Elliott wrote:
>>> Apparently the source for Windows 7 Beta has been leaked via Bittorrent.
>> The SOURCE?!
> 
> Doesn't look like it. Just binaries, as it has happened with Vista oh so
> many times.

Ah, well. The article writer used "code" more than once.. I tend to 
equate code with source not binaries, so misread that. :p

-- 
void main () {

     if version = "Vista" {
       call slow_by_half();
       call DRM_everything();
     }
     call functional_code();
   }
   else
     call crash_windows();
}

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From: Patrick Elliott
Subject: Re: Oops..
Date: 30 Dec 2008 13:47:28
Message: <495a6cc0$1@news.povray.org>
somebody wrote:
> "Patrick Elliott" <sel### [at] npgcablecom> wrote in message
> news:4959520b$1@news.povray.org...
> 
>> Apparently the source for Windows 7 Beta has been leaked via Bittorrent.
>>
>
http://www.technewsworld.com/story/Devs-Get-Early-Taste-of-Windows-7-Beta-Via-File-Sharing-Leak-65646.html
> 
> Where are you getting the "source"?
> 
> 
"However, the latest code for the new OS appears to be available for 
download now through file-sharing utilities."

Since when is "binaries" the same as "code", since that is the only 
other interpretation of that sentence that makes sense at all. Mind, its 
possible the author is too stupid to know the difference, but...

-- 
void main () {

     if version = "Vista" {
       call slow_by_half();
       call DRM_everything();
     }
     call functional_code();
   }
   else
     call crash_windows();
}

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From: somebody
Subject: Re: Oops..
Date: 30 Dec 2008 14:08:02
Message: <495a7192@news.povray.org>
"Patrick Elliott" <sel### [at] npgcablecom> wrote in message
news:495a6cc0$1@news.povray.org...
> somebody wrote:
> > "Patrick Elliott" <sel### [at] npgcablecom> wrote in message
> > news:4959520b$1@news.povray.org...
> >
> >> Apparently the source for Windows 7 Beta has been leaked via
Bittorrent.
> >>
> >
http://www.technewsworld.com/story/Devs-Get-Early-Taste-of-Windows-7-Beta-Via-File-Sharing-Leak-65646.html
> >
> > Where are you getting the "source"?

> "However, the latest code for the new OS appears to be available for
> download now through file-sharing utilities."

> Since when is "binaries" the same as "code", since that is the only
> other interpretation of that sentence that makes sense at all. Mind, its
> possible the author is too stupid to know the difference, but...

Code can mean anything. There's "binary/machine code", there's "source
code", there's "ASCII code", there's "Goedel code"... etc. "Source" has to
be explicit, to mean anything human readable, as "code" by itself implies
something "cryptic" (a more precise information theory definition exists).


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From: Gail
Subject: Re: Oops..
Date: 30 Dec 2008 14:10:21
Message: <495a721d@news.povray.org>
"Patrick Elliott" <sel### [at] npgcablecom> wrote in message 
news:495a6cc0$1@news.povray.org...
>
> Since when is "binaries" the same as "code", since that is the only other 
> interpretation of that sentence that makes sense at all. Mind, its 
> possible the author is too stupid to know the difference, but...
>

I haven't read the article yet, but from what I've heard from other sources, 
all that's leaked is the beta that was going to be publically released in 
just over a week.

Gail


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From: Gail
Subject: Re: Oops..
Date: 30 Dec 2008 14:18:34
Message: <495a740a@news.povray.org>
> "Patrick Elliott" <sel### [at] npgcablecom> wrote in message
> news:495a6cc0$1@news.povray.org...
>>
>> Since when is "binaries" the same as "code", since that is the only other 
>> interpretation of that sentence that makes sense at all. Mind, its 
>> possible the author is too stupid to know the difference, but...
>>

Having read the article, there is no way that the writer means source code 
when he talks about code

"So if Microsoft wanted a broad collection of users to have access to the 
code, the company could easily make it freely downloadable and would not 
need to leak it."
"One reason a company might give the code to a selected number of people 
prior to release is to get some positive reaction to build excitement for 
the eventual release,"

Neither of those statements could possibly apply to the source code

Gail


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From: Patrick Elliott
Subject: Re: Oops..
Date: 31 Dec 2008 14:20:18
Message: <495bc5f2$1@news.povray.org>
Gail wrote:
> 
>> "Patrick Elliott" <sel### [at] npgcablecom> wrote in message
>> news:495a6cc0$1@news.povray.org...
>>>
>>> Since when is "binaries" the same as "code", since that is the only 
>>> other interpretation of that sentence that makes sense at all. Mind, 
>>> its possible the author is too stupid to know the difference, but...
>>>
> 
> Having read the article, there is no way that the writer means source 
> code when he talks about code
> 
> "So if Microsoft wanted a broad collection of users to have access to 
> the code, the company could easily make it freely downloadable and would 
> not need to leak it."
> "One reason a company might give the code to a selected number of people 
> prior to release is to get some positive reaction to build excitement 
> for the eventual release,"
> 
> Neither of those statements could possibly apply to the source code
> 
> Gail

Yeah, well. One can always hope for a bigger screw up.. lol

-- 
void main () {

     if version = "Vista" {
       call slow_by_half();
       call DRM_everything();
     }
     call functional_code();
   }
   else
     call crash_windows();
}

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3D Content, and 3D Software at DAZ3D!</A>


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Oops..
Date: 31 Dec 2008 14:56:39
Message: <495bce77$1@news.povray.org>
Patrick Elliott wrote:
> Yeah, well. One can always hope for a bigger screw up.. lol

I'm honestly rather surprised that such things happen so rarely, myself.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   The NFL should go international. I'd pay to
   see the Detroit Lions vs the Roman Catholics.


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