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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Just in case you missed it ...
Date: 18 Apr 2008 05:28:42
Message: <480869ca@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> >   (Or perhaps you are just evil and do that on purpose, and when someone
> > starts defending it you point out that you weren't really attacking the
> > current Solaris, but just a 10yo one...)

> Um, no. I wasn't bashing Solaris at all. I was pointing out that (1) 
> yes, it's been on Intel chips at least 10 years, (2) I tried it, and (3) 
> still remember how surprised I was that Sun supported Java better on the 
> competitor's OS than their own.

  Hmm, was that a demonstration of how you would have responded if someone
had claimed you are bashing Solaris?

> I think you read way more "bashing" into most of my statements at this 
> point than I intend.  It's merely conversation.

  Maybe you should reread what I wrote?

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Just in case you missed it ...
Date: 18 Apr 2008 05:34:18
Message: <48086b1a$1@news.povray.org>
>> In fact, you know what? I challenge you to find a Google search term 
>> that finds my blog. :-P
> 
> "Orphi".  You're #5 on the list.
> 
> Or, if I do "Orphi blog", then you're #1 :)

That's astonishing... My name actually ranks that high in Google? 
Anybody would think I'd been out link-spamming or something...

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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Just in case you missed it ...
Date: 18 Apr 2008 05:36:22
Message: <48086b96$1@news.povray.org>
Chambers wrote:

> You know, if you want people to read your Haskell raves, you probably 
> shouldn't respond this way to other people's interests...

I just find it puzzling, that's all.

I mean, if the POV-Ray team released a brand new version of POV-Ray that 
was exactly like the old one but up to 3% faster in certain cases... 
would anybody care? No, not really. Yet the Linux kernel apparently 
generates this much interest? I find that strange.

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Just in case you missed it ...
Date: 18 Apr 2008 05:59:06
Message: <480870e9@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> I mean, if the POV-Ray team released a brand new version of POV-Ray that 
> was exactly like the old one but up to 3% faster in certain cases... 
> would anybody care? No, not really. Yet the Linux kernel apparently 
> generates this much interest? I find that strange.

  If you discover a new fancy way of using gonads or whatever, why should
we care? ;)

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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Just in case you missed it ...
Date: 18 Apr 2008 06:04:45
Message: <4808723d$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:

>   If you discover a new fancy way of using gonads or whatever, why should
> we care? ;)

One might retort that it allows me to build a full expression parser in 
less than a dozen LoC, but yeah, realistically, who cares about that? I 
should just go kill myself now...

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From: scott
Subject: Re: Just in case you missed it ...
Date: 18 Apr 2008 06:28:11
Message: <480877bb$1@news.povray.org>
>>   If you discover a new fancy way of using gonads or whatever, why should
>> we care? ;)
>
> One might retort that it allows me to build a full expression parser in 
> less than a dozen LoC,

Well I'm equally sure that 2.5.75.11 or whatever it was will allow some 
people to do some new stuff.  Otherwise it wouldn't be an update.

Just because most people don't know the details about gonads work with rear 
end recursion, and you (and I) don't know the details about the 
2.75.11.5.157 linux update, it doesn't mean it's not useful at all.

> but yeah, realistically, who cares about that? I should just go kill 
> myself now...

What, just because you are doing something that not many others are 
interested in?  I'm not interested in the details of what you are doing with 
Haskell, but once I understood what your logic program was doing (or rather, 
what it is easily capable of doing) I was quite impressed.


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From: Sabrina Kilian
Subject: Re: Just in case you missed it ...
Date: 18 Apr 2008 06:30:49
Message: <48087859$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   If you discover a new fancy way of using gonads or whatever, why should
> we care? ;)
> 

Because, unlike Haskell or the Linux Kernel or POV-Ray, that really 
would apply to most people.



And could either be considerably fun, or horrifically painful.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Just in case you missed it ...
Date: 18 Apr 2008 10:54:17
Message: <4808b619@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> Warp wrote:
>>   For some reason OpenSuse has the policy that they never upgrade the
>> kernel (nor gcc) of a given distro to the newest version. 
> 
> I've not found that to be the case. My OpenSuse machines at work have 
> three different kernels, depending on when I upgraded them.

I take that back. There are three different kernels, but the differences 
are all in security patches. I don't know what I was thinking. I'll 
blame it on the whiskey or something. ;-)

And it's not a bad thing, btw. We have 3rd party code that needs a 
specific compiler, and other 3rd party device drivers that link against 
the kernel. Stability in the basic infrastructure can be a good thing.

(Sadly, the compiler version the 3rd-party code needs isn't the compiler 
that comes with the SuSE we're using, so that kind of sucks, but ...)

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     "That's pretty. Where's that?"
          "It's the Age of Channelwood."
     "We should go there on vacation some time."


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Just in case you missed it ...
Date: 18 Apr 2008 10:55:25
Message: <4808b65d$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   If you discover a new fancy way of using gonads or whatever, 

That's the giggle of the morning, I think.  :-)

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   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     "That's pretty. Where's that?"
          "It's the Age of Channelwood."
     "We should go there on vacation some time."


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Just in case you missed it ...
Date: 18 Apr 2008 10:57:06
Message: <4808b6c2$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   Maybe you should reread what I wrote?

Have you stopped beating your wife?

You're not the only person I'm responding to here.

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     "That's pretty. Where's that?"
          "It's the Age of Channelwood."
     "We should go there on vacation some time."


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