Gail Shaw wrote:
> Where's that one? I seem to have somehow missed it...

In the p.o-t.fan.haskell.bork.bork.bork group.

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"Darren New" <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote in message
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> Gail Shaw wrote:
> > Where's that one? I seem to have somehow missed it...
>
> In the p.o-t.fan.haskell.bork.bork.bork group.

Ok....
Didn't even realise more off topic newsgroups existed.

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"Darren New" <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote in message
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> Gail Shaw wrote:
> > Where's that one? I seem to have somehow missed it...
>
> In the p.o-t.fan.haskell.bork.bork.bork group.

Ouch.... Nice case of willful cluelessness.
I'd offer you a hand, but you seem to be having fun...

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Darren New wrote:

You still don't get it, do you?  I never said rich people don't pay 
taxes.  I never said rich people don't pay enough taxes.  I never said 
rich people don't pay *absolutely* more taxes than poor people.  I said 
it was appropriate for rich people to pay *relatively* more taxes than 
poor people because they get *relatively* more benefit.

> 
> But I apologize if I've actually insulted you.  It wasn't my intention 
> to do so.
> 

Oh, give me a break.

--Sherry Shaw


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Stephen wrote:
> 
> Seriously they are always like that. When our Mrs T was in power it
> was the same over here. When there is a far right government in power
> more crawl out of the woodwork than you would imagine was possible.

Heavy sigh.  I'm hoping that things may start to look up around 
November.  At least, I'm hoping to hope.  Or something like that.

The really bewildering part is where he lumps me in with him and his 
rich buddies in sneering at the poor.  I guess maybe that princely $7500 
in student loans that I'm living on for a year at a time has made me 
uppity.  ;)

--Sherry Shaw


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Sherry Shaw wrote:
> The really bewildering part is where he lumps me in with him and his 
> rich buddies in sneering at the poor. 

I have to assume you're talking about me. So I'll also have to assume 
that unless you can point out where I actually used the word "sneering", 
now you're just full of yourself, or illiterate, or both.

It's bewildering because it takes a lot of suspension of disbelief to 
play the victim here. So much that you've turned it into a nonsensical 
fiction.

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   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     "That's pretty. Where's that?"
          "It's the Age of Channelwood."
     "We should go there on vacation some time."

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Sherry Shaw wrote:
> it was appropriate for rich people to pay *relatively* more taxes than 
> poor people because they get *relatively* more benefit.

Well, first, you argued "wealth is a privilege, not a right", which you 
clarified as "your point, whole point, and nothing but your point." I 
disagreed, explained why, and you provided neither support nor 
counterarguments to my ideas, which I was actually looking forward to.

Second, they *do* pay "relatively" more taxes, both as an absolute 
number and as a percentage of their income. I'm not sure how you could 
prepare taxes professionally and not know that people who make more 
money are in a higher tax bracket.

Third, I never argued that rich people shouldn't pay more taxes than 
poor people both absolutely and relatively. I merely pointed out that 
they do, which you dismissed because you either didn't bother to open 
both links I provided or because you did open both links I provided but 
found it difficult to argue that the numbers coming from the IRS to the 
House of Representatives weren't issued to prove some point.

> Oh, give me a break.

No, because you're being an ass now.  Seriously.  I just gave you two, 
and you're still being insulting.

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   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
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          "It's the Age of Channelwood."
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 22:11:54 -0500, Sherry Shaw <ten### [at] aolcom>
wrote:

>
>Heavy sigh.  I'm hoping that things may start to look up around 
>November.  At least, I'm hoping to hope.  Or something like that.

So do I.

>The really bewildering part is where he lumps me in with him and his 
>rich buddies in sneering at the poor.  

I don't think that he meant to I think that it was a Freudian Slip.

>I guess maybe that princely $7500 
>in student loans that I'm living on for a year at a time has made me 
>uppity.  ;)

Don't you know that there are whole villages in Africa that would love
to have so much to live on? :)

It doesn't seem a lot to live on in America. 
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     Stephen

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Darren New wrote:
> 
> ...both absolutely and relatively. I merely pointed out that 
> they do, which you dismissed...
> 

I did not dismiss it.  I said it was *appropriate* that they do so.

One of your links worked.  That was the page that contained the table to 
which you apparently referred.  The other link was nonfunctional.

I suggest that you re-read your posts, paying special attention to tone.

I have no more time for this discussion.

--Sherry Shaw


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Sherry Shaw wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>>
>> ...both absolutely and relatively. I merely pointed out that they do, 
>> which you dismissed...
>>
> 
> I did not dismiss it.  I said it was *appropriate* that they do so.

OK. So I'm still not sure what your point is, but I guess you don't care.

> One of your links worked.  That was the page that contained the table to 
> which you apparently referred.  The other link was nonfunctional.

I dunno. Works for me, continues to work for me. Of course, it points to 
a PDF, so if your PDF software is screwed, maybe it doesn't work for 
you.  Of course, simply saying "that link didn't work for me" rather 
than ranting on as if I didn't provide any authoritative links at all 
would have probably worked out better. And then asking repeatedly for 
clarification of what's already in that first document, instead of 
saying "I can't read that first document."

> I suggest that you re-read your posts, paying special attention to tone.

And I suggest you re-read yours, paying special attention to blatent 
insults.

> I have no more time for this discussion.

A shame. I was kind of curious what your point may have been, given that 
you seemed to be complaining and most people don't complain about things 
that are working they way they think they should.  I mean, why "rant" if 
what you're ranting about is "wealthy people should pay a lot of tax, 
and they do!"

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     "That's pretty. Where's that?"
          "It's the Age of Channelwood."
     "We should go there on vacation some time."

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