Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> 
> Wait, back up... virtual PC images?

Yes. Next question?

Oh, did anyone yet mention the rootshares for machines that boot from 
the network (who would want a HD to spin around near sleeping facilities 
(=the bed console) or in a HTPC?)?

> BTW... it's possible to rip DVDs??

Yes. dd if=/dev/dvd of=dvd.img

> Jesus, my PC is old. o_O

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-98377375624850470

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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Perhaps I'm not understanding correctly - video data typically eats a 
> few GB per minute. So why do you need 1,000 GB? That's, like, several 
> *hours* of video data. You'd have to be producing a feature film or 
> something to need more, surely?

First of all, you'll have easily more than twice the data you'll 
actually need. While shooting video you'll get *a lot* of misshoots.

Secondly, you'll need some scratch space. So the 1000GB can be divided 
by 3 or 4 in the first place - 250 or 333GB ain't so much anymore...

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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> >> Damn - what on earth could you possibly use 1 TB of disk for?? o_O
> > 
> >   Video editing. It's not even enough for serious work on that field.

> Perhaps I'm not understanding correctly - video data typically eats a 
> few GB per minute. So why do you need 1,000 GB? That's, like, several 
> *hours* of video data. You'd have to be producing a feature film or 
> something to need more, surely?

  Do you remember our talk about layers in image editing software?

  Video editing software don't have layers per se, but tracks, which
is almost the same thing.

  Usually the video editing process consists in having hundreds, if not
even thousands of video clips from which you create the whole video.

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>> OK, I rephrase: Can you actually *do* something useful with this data
>> once you have it?
> 
> Mount it as a virtual dvd and treat it as if it was a disk. (Daemon tools,
> etc)

Oh... I wouldn't have expected that to work due to copy protection.

> Most DVD writing software will let you take an iso and burn to a DVD so that
> the burnt disk looks like the original.

Isn't the DVD copy protection designed expressedly for the purpose of 
completely preventing this from ever happening?

> I wouldn't exactly be storing ripped DVDs if I couldn't do anything with
> them...

Well, hence my surprise... ;-)

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Warp wrote:

>   Do you remember our talk about layers in image editing software?
> 
>   Video editing software don't have layers per se, but tracks, which
> is almost the same thing.
> 
>   Usually the video editing process consists in having hundreds, if not
> even thousands of video clips from which you create the whole video.

GAH! o_O

No wonder all the video I create looks rubbish...

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> Oh... I wouldn't have expected that to work due to copy protection.

Few discs have real copy protection.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-Video#Restrictions

"CSS does not make it more difficult to copy the digital content, nor 
possible to distinguish between legal and illegal copies of a work, but 
it does restrict the playback software that may be used."

"After DeCSS ripping software became available, companies developed 
techniques to introduce errors in DVD-Video discs that don't normally 
affect playback and navigation of a disc, but can cause problems in 
software that attempts to copy the entire disc."

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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> 
> No, I meant I think the CPU die is encased in solid metal to promote 
> heat transfer from it to the heat sink.

Ah, yes. Would sound pretty reasonable.

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"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
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> >> OK, I rephrase: Can you actually *do* something useful with this data
> >> once you have it?
> >
> > Mount it as a virtual dvd and treat it as if it was a disk. (Daemon
tools,
> > etc)
>
> Oh... I wouldn't have expected that to work due to copy protection.

What I'm generally ripping doesn't have copy protection.
SQL Server DVDs
Conference proceedings
Game demo disks (from magazines)
etc

I never said I was ripping DVD video (which is just as possible, but
slightly more difficult and doesn't result in an iso file)

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On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:28:43 +0200, "Gail Shaw"
<initialsurname@sentech sa dot com> wrote:

>
>I never said I was ripping DVD video (which is just as possible, but
>slightly more difficult and doesn't result in an iso file)
>
It can, if you are that way inclined :)
Just about any illegal activity can be done, if you are that way
inclined.
Not that I am but I had a hard milk round :) and I know a few dubious
people.
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> The Amiga has always been able to work at resolutions other than TV. 
> That's just the default settings.

Sorry. I never saw the A1000 plugged into any monitor more resolute than 
a television. Maybe in theory, yes, but not something you could buy off 
the shelf.

(IIRC, not even in theory, tho. :-)

> I've yet to see any group of people as fanatical about a technology as 
> the Amiga users though. 

It was very awesome technology. I still have all the textbooks. I still 
think it's a great way to build an OS.  It's just hard to do it 
multi-user. :-)

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          "It's the Age of Channelwood."
     "We should go there on vacation some time."

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